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    Was Baylor kickoff offside call ever explained?

    Was the offsides that was called on us in the Baylor game ever explained? As was discussed endlessly at the time, the kicker, by rule, cannot be offsides. Nobody else in an Iowa State jersey was anywhere close to the line of scrimmage at the moment the ball was kicked.

    This still bugs the hell out of me. Yeah, yeah, so I can hold a grudge forever. I want an apology, but I'll settle for an explanation.

    Phantom Offside Penalty on Onside Kick - YouTube



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    Re: Was Baylor kickoff offside call ever explained?

    Nope, not that I am aware of.



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    Re: Was Baylor kickoff offside call ever explained?

    TV announcers said the kicker was offsides, but someone said later that isn't in the rulebook. The kicker can't be offsides no matter what.

    So it was determined that one of the other 10 guys was offsides, although replays clearly showed nobody else was close to be offsides.

    Blown call...luckily it didn't make a difference in the outcome of the game.



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    Re: Was Baylor kickoff offside call ever explained?

    Quote Originally Posted by cyman05 View Post
    TV announcers said the kicker was offsides, but someone said later that isn't in the rulebook. The kicker can't be offsides no matter what.

    So it was determined that one of the other 10 guys was offsides, although replays clearly showed nobody else was close to be offsides.

    Blown call...luckily it didn't make a difference in the outcome of the game.
    Maybe, maybe not. Remember how much the onside swung the momentum during the Oklahoma State game? ISU was down 24-7 and won.



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    Re: Was Baylor kickoff offside call ever explained?

    Quote Originally Posted by JUKEBOX View Post
    Maybe, maybe not. Remember how much the onside swung the momentum during the Oklahoma State game? ISU was down 24-7 and won.
    Agree, granted, we could have done more to win that game, but between this and the Tuck rule being part of college football that night, really made it tough for ISU. I won't blame the loss on that call, but it definitely would have been a different game.



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    Re: Was Baylor kickoff offside call ever explained?

    Quote Originally Posted by Clonefan94 View Post
    Agree, granted, we could have done more to win that game, but between this and the Tuck rule being part of college football that night, really made it tough for ISU. I won't blame the loss on that call, but it definitely would have been a different game.

    Don't forget Jantz crapping the ball to them for a TD when we were on the doorstep. If we get the TD there it's a 7 point game.



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    Re: Was Baylor kickoff offside call ever explained?

    Quote Originally Posted by Clonefan94 View Post
    ... Tuck rule ...

    Seriously, it seemed like they were trying to find any way possible to keep the momentum from swinging to ISU.



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    Re: Was Baylor kickoff offside call ever explained?

    Quote Originally Posted by Clonefan94 View Post
    Agree, granted, we could have done more to win that game, but between this and the Tuck rule being part of college football that night, really made it tough for ISU. I won't blame the loss on that call, but it definitely would have been a different game.
    Yes, the tuck rule call could've changed the flow of the game. But when the onsides kick occured, there were only a few minutes left and we were down by something like 21. It was all but over at that point.



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    Re: Was Baylor kickoff offside call ever explained?

    Quote Originally Posted by cyhiphopp View Post
    Seriously, it seemed like they were trying to find any way possible to keep the momentum from swinging to ISU.
    Ease up, you're close to getting called out by the legion of fans here who refuse to question officiating under any circumstance.

    College football doesn't have the tuck rule like the NFL does. The fact is that RGIII knew he had fumbled that ball rather than throwing an incompletion. He went after the ball as soon as it hit the turf. Unfortunately, once the ball gets below about shoulder level with the ball still in the hand of the QB, it becomes a judgment call on the official's part as to whether he has intended to throw the ball or hold onto it.

    And the off-sides call was simply brutal. Gary Pinkel got an official apology from the conference the day after a hold was correctly called in 2006 in Dan's last game. We don't know if our athletic department sent an official complaint to the conference about that off-sides call, but I would like to think they did.



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    Re: Was Baylor kickoff offside call ever explained?

    On the field they called offsides on Grant. Rhoads went berserk knowing that it is impossible for the kicker to be offsides. The officials talked it over and decided it wasnt actually 21...it was um, someone else I guess (quick pick a number)? Rhoads was pretty chapped.



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    Re: Was Baylor kickoff offside call ever explained?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cybyassociation View Post
    On the field they called offsides on Grant. Rhoads went berserk knowing that it is impossible for the kicker to be offsides. The officials talked it over and decided it wasnt actually 21...it was um, someone else I guess (quick pick a number)? Rhoads was pretty chapped.
    Are you kidding me??? I suppose the refs never fessed up to calling it on Grant originally? They ended up calling it on #7, George.



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    Re: Was Baylor kickoff offside call ever explained?

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    Are you kidding me??? I suppose the refs never fessed up to calling it on Grant originally? They ended up calling it on #7, George.

    I remember the announcers saying that it was the kicker, but the official said #7 and I don't recall the official ever saying it was on the kicker.



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    Re: Was Baylor kickoff offside call ever explained?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cycsk View Post
    I remember the announcers saying that it was the kicker, but the official said #7 and I don't recall the official ever saying it was on the kicker.
    When they originally called it on the field, before the field judge announced it, they called it on the kicker. Thats when Rhoads freaked. I thought it was on Reeves? Either way, it was a horse **** call.



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    Re: Was Baylor kickoff offside call ever explained?

    It was a ghost call just like when RG111 fumbled and they made up a rule that is not a college rule to give Baylor ball again ... But that is over they were wrong and need to go to ref school again ..



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    Re: Was Baylor kickoff offside call ever explained?

    Quote Originally Posted by cyman05 View Post
    Yes, the tuck rule call could've changed the flow of the game. But when the onsides kick occured, there were only a few minutes left and we were down by something like 21. It was all but over at that point.
    More like 16 point, two possession game with almost 10 minutes to play.



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