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  • Continue with the regular bowl system

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  • the "plus 1" format involving 3 teams

    14 11.20%
  • a 4 team playoff

    33 26.40%
  • a 6 team playoff where the top 2 seeds get a bye week

    12 9.60%
  • an 8 team playoff

    33 26.40%
  • a 16 team playoff

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    what postseason format would you prefer

    if you were given the choice. it seems as though the powers that be, are actually listening to the outcry of fans for some semblance of a playoff. just curious what everyone's preference would be in and ideal world.

    i think i would like to see a 6 team playoff. the #1 and #2 teams get a bye week while 4 others duke it out to play the top two. then the winners of that game play for the title. i think anything more than that might be too much. i'd be happy enough with an "and 1" playoff, but would like to see more teams than just 4 having a shot at it as this still eliminates teams like boise st. with the and 1 system, it will still be the big boys playing the big boys with the boise st.'s of the world on the outside looking in. with an expansion to 6, those teams would have a fighting chance.

    i loathe the current system though.



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    Re: what postseason format would you prefer

    I think if your going to go to a playoff system, you need to find a way to give every FBS team a chance. Best way to do that, IMO, is have every conference champ invited, plus some at-larges. 16-team playoff...10 conference champs, 6 at-larges.

    FCS does a 16-team playoff. If they can make it work, so can FBS.



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    Re: what postseason format would you prefer

    In your poll you have "plus 1 format involving 3 teams". Shouldn't it be 4 teams?



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    Re: what postseason format would you prefer

    8 team playoff.

    Use the current BCS bowls as the first round, and keep all the other bowl games. You can keep power conference tie ins for 6 slots. After that, highest ranked at-larges fill the rest of the spots.

    With the Big East essentially being comprised of C-USA/MWC schools going forward, perserving their spot would give these schools who've complained in the past a spot to automatically qualify.

    Someone (isukendall I think) proposed this basic system earlier, and I liked it.

    It gets a "true" champ without the "rich get richer" effect of a 16 team playoff, and it cuts down on the number of games so that fans can still actually attend the post season.


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    Re: what postseason format would you prefer

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrok View Post
    In your poll you have "plus 1 format involving 3 teams". Shouldn't it be 4 teams?
    perhaps i am mistaken, but the way i understood a "plus 1" system would be the #2 and # 3 teams play each other in order to determine who will play #1 team for the title game. is that wrong?

    i.e. oklahoma st. would have played alabama last week and the winner would then play LSU this week. 3 teams.


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    Re: what postseason format would you prefer

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckd4735 View Post
    I think if your going to go to a playoff system, you need to find a way to give every FBS team a chance. Best way to do that, IMO, is have every conference champ invited, plus some at-larges. 16-team playoff...10 conference champs, 6 at-larges.

    FCS does a 16-team playoff. If they can make it work, so can FBS.
    if every conf champ was invited, the super conf would go bye bye! that is not a bad thing. everyone would want in the MAC, or Big10...



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    Re: what postseason format would you prefer

    Quote Originally Posted by Tedcyclone View Post
    if every conf champ was invited, the super conf would go bye bye! that is not a bad thing. everyone would want in the MAC, or Big10...
    Super conferences are driven by TV, and I don't think a 16-team playoff would make the MAC get more TV viewers, so the BCS conferences would probably continue to be the major players, especially when it came to the at-large spots.



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    Re: what postseason format would you prefer

    I would say 4 would be fine. 8 would not be bad either. If you think about this year, nobody deserved a shot outside of the top 4 and that usually is the case. When it comes down to the championship game nobody outside the top four believes they deserve a chance and usually don't have any case about being a title contender.



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    Re: what postseason format would you prefer

    I went with an 8 team playoff. It really is just one game more than a +1 for those teams. As far as worrying about the student athletes being away from class, how many of the teams making it to the final four of that playoff actually have their players going to any classes anyway?


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    Re: what postseason format would you prefer

    Quote Originally Posted by theyork View Post
    perhaps i am mistaken, but the way i understood a "plus 1" system would be the #2 and # 3 teams play each other in order to determine who will play #1 team for the title game. is that wrong?

    i.e. oklahoma st. would have played alabama last week and the winner would then play LSU this week. 3 teams.
    Sounds like a Plus one is on tap for the future. Most BCS Commishes have made comments for it.

    How would it work? That is to be determined. It seems the most likely proposal to go through is to eliminate BCS bowls. The BCS formula would be recalculated after the bowls and #1 vs. #2 would then play.

    With the elimination of BCS bowl status, you'd probably end up with bowls that look like:

    Rose: Big 10 #1 vs. PAC12 #1
    Fiesta: Big 12 #1 vs. Big 10 #3
    Sugar: SEC #1 vs. Big 10 #2
    Cotton: Big 12 #2 vs. SEC #3
    Orange: ACC #1 vs. SEC #2
    Capital One: Big East #1 vs. SEC #4

    In a senario like this, you'd have all 4 teams in contention for the BCS playing in different games

    Sugar: LSU (#1) vs. Michigan
    Orange: Bama (#2) vs. Clemson
    Fiesta: Okie State (#3) vs. Michigan State
    Rose: Stanford (#4) vs. Wisconsin

    If you're #3 or #4 you have to root for #1 or #2 to lose in their bowl game.

    If you think this is a disaster waiting to happen you are right. But more Big 10 and SEC teams makes bowls more money.

    If you think this is unlikely to happen, you'd better have a look at this:

    Turn and Face the Strain: More Plus-One Thoughts « FRANK THE TANK’S SLANT



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    Re: what postseason format would you prefer

    The three team scenario would be stupid, everyone in the 2 or 3 slot would blame the loss on the fact that they had to play the week before. Only way I see a bye happening is if there are more than 8 teams.



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    Re: what postseason format would you prefer

    The only flaw in the current system, in my opinion, is giving self-serving coaches/SID's and not-nearly-as-informed-as-you'd-think Associated Press members a highly influential vote. There are just too many teams and not enough games to really allow the teams to sort themselves out on the field once you get past the top 3 teams. Every year it seems the question isn't "who are the top two?" but instead "we all know who the #1 team is, but who deserves to play them?" So really it is a question of how to differentiate between the #2 and #3 teams, who usually haven't played each other and don't share many common opponents. That problem doesn't go away when you're talking about seeding a playoff.

    The NFL has 32 teams and they play 16 games. They end up playing about 1/3 of the league, and play a few of those teams twice. It's pretty easy to compare two teams in different conferences by looking at their common opponents. They are able to sort out the best and worst on the field during the season.


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    Re: what postseason format would you prefer

    If I could have my way, I would choose a 16 team playoff. Knowing that won't happen, I would be happy with 4.



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    Re: what postseason format would you prefer

    Quote Originally Posted by besserheimerphat View Post
    The only flaw in the current system, in my opinion, is giving self-serving coaches/SID's and not-nearly-as-informed-as-you'd-think Associated Press members a highly influential vote. There are just too many teams and not enough games to really allow the teams to sort themselves out on the field once you get past the top 3 teams. Every year it seems the question isn't "who are the top two?" but instead "we all know who the #1 team is, but who deserves to play them?" So really it is a question of how to differentiate between the #2 and #3 teams, who usually haven't played each other and don't share many common opponents. That problem doesn't go away when you're talking about seeding a playoff.

    The NFL has 32 teams and they play 16 games. They end up playing about 1/3 of the league, and play a few of those teams twice. It's pretty easy to compare two teams in different conferences by looking at their common opponents. They are able to sort out the best and worst on the field during the season.
    Or more simply the NFL has 12 of 32 teams in the playoff, not 2 out of, how many, 120?


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    Re: what postseason format would you prefer

    Quote Originally Posted by NATEizKING View Post
    The three team scenario would be stupid, everyone in the 2 or 3 slot would blame the loss on the fact that they had to play the week before. Only way I see a bye happening is if there are more than 8 teams.
    I don't think that would happen. The amount of days leading up to the #2/#3 game would still be fairly large. Also, the teams in the #2/#3 game would have more time to prepare than the #1 team would have after seeing who wins that play-in game.



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