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    Twister Sister Summary - ugliness in Soonerville

    The first half started just as you would want it to. ISU came out relatively sharp and would run out to an 18-10 lead before the wheels came off. The name of the game was to get the ball to Pop and she was doing all she could hitting practically every shot she took. The part that worried me was the lack of offense from our guard court and the lack of defense overall as OU would hit nearly 47% in the first stanza.

    OU went on a 15-0 run over a 6 minute spread starting at the 10 minute mark of the half to take a nine point lead before Pop would finally hit a short jumper to end that streak with 2:30 left. OU was really on fire offensively and ISU was struggling against the defense. Then it got worse when Prins was called for a flagrant foul. McFarland was given free throws and possession. This spread the lead out to 10 (20-30). OU would keep the pressure on and our guards didn't handle it well. ISU had 12 turnovers and only 19 shots in the first half and had some key ones late in the half that helped OU extend the lead to 13 at the half after going on a 23-3 run. ISU would only score 2 points in the last 10:30 of the first half. This was as bad a melt down as I've seen in quite some time. Our guards simply couldn't handle the pressure. Add to that, McFarland was having a field day (no pun intended) scoring 14 points and grabbing 6 boards. Points off turnovers? OU had 18. OU would lead 33-20.

    One thing that was disturbing was watching one offensive series where Ellenberg was literally beating Cole up at the 4 minute mark. These officials weren't calling it. She got hammered on three times before Cole got called for an offensive foul. Unbelievable. This, to me is a problem in the Big-12 that has been evolving for the last couple of years. This game is becoming much more physical.

    The halftime speech and adjustments would have to be an interesting one if the sisters had any hope of getting back into this game. Unfortunately it wouldn't happen.

    ISU would start out right as Pop took a charge on OU's first possession and Moody would convert at the other end. I was thinking our defense was looking better just as Hood would blow by three players to score. She made us look very, very slow. A key was Griffin picking up her 3rd foul early and having to leave the game. Interestingly, the officials seemed to be calling the game a little tighter. In one possession, OU picked up three fouls! Unfortunately, Pop would only hit one free throw and it was a 12 point lead. The biggest problem facing the sisters was having to come back from the double digit deficit. They did some good things…mainly Pop and Moody…but also kept making mistakes. Playing even ball just wasn't going to cut it and four minutes in OU still led by 11. Prins was ineffective until late in the game. Many of the other players were completely ineffective. It seemed like a Pop and Moody show and that won't win many ball games. Another 3 and OU suddenly led by 15 at the 13 minute mark.

    The game was beginning to get ugly. Our ladies in red were consistently getting one shot and then having to sprint to the other end. Missed shots and OU conversions continued to stretch this lead and you could see the game slipping away as OU led by 18. One thing that was consistent was Pop. This lady just doesn't quit. We need a few more of her as no one else seems to know how to finish.

    Have to give credit where credit is due. Prins hit one of the prettiest and longest 3 pointers that I've seen this year about midway through the half. We were still down a bunch, but man…hearing the announcers nearly go speechless was almost worth it.

    Several things were clear about ISU after watching this game. We do not have anyone but Pop that we can actually depend on for scoring. Big C continues to struggle to find her offensive game and the freshmen are really going to learn some tough lessons during the Big 12 season. The big question is…who will step up to help out? You'd like to think it would be the upperclassmen, but right now that doesn't appear to be happening.

    Moody would foul out after ISU pulled within 13. Interesting stat…the keys to victory in this game were defending the three and making your free throws. We definitely failed at the first as OU hit in the double digits and converted over 60%. Free throws? OU surely tried to help there as they are much worse shooters than we are. Yet we didn't help ourselves by hitting in the high 60% range. The final dagger for us was a lack of offensive capability as we continue to struggle from behind the arc and yet we continue to put them up.

    The ladies never gave up and made a couple of short runs to pull closer but never could get over the hump. In the end rushed shots and OU's offense would allow OU to pull away and easily win.

    So who did well? As you could tell Pop was a monster. She scored and rebounded throughout the game. The only time she wasn't was when she was on the bench. Prins made some points late in the game, but she also had some air balls and missed some bunny shots again. Brynn made a couple of nice 3's and Moody had her moments although there were few of them. Not much else to say that was positive tonight. OU pretty much had their way with ISU for the last 30 minutes of the game.

    Its going to sound like an old harpy, but this team is still searching for an identity. I'm hoping its not what we are seeing…a team that can't score and can be pushed around by aggressive defense. The team has to find an outside scorer and someone needs to compliment Pop inside. That means Prins or Big-C have got to show up during crunch time. 9 assists to 16 turnovers won't cut it. Our players have to value the ball. Finally…we have to follow Bill's mantra of making more free throws than the other team shoots. Tonight OU shot 24 and we made 9.

    We have a big task in front of us for Saturday. If we don't at least get our defense in gear it could get ugly early. To me the bigger concern is actually offense. We were one and done most of the night and that will lead to scores like we saw tonight. Final score 80-51. It was just as ugly as the score.



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    Re: Twister Sister Summary - ugliness in Soonerville

    Thanks for the write up - hopefully the ladies can watch out for some of those big runs from other B12 teams and find a way to get the next one.



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    Re: Twister Sister Summary - ugliness in Soonerville

    Any leadership on this team?



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    Re: Twister Sister Summary - ugliness in Soonerville

    Good recap. I thought the officiating set the tone. Our comment on the Chaz foul, was pretty much the whole game. Our guards were getting tons of contact when on defense, then getting called for the foul. The last fould Chaz took, the OU guard had her arm bar extended 2 feet out in Chaz's chest, and Chaz got called for blocking.

    Clearly, OU hit their shots, but I think the officiating was one of the worst I have seen in a long time. The OU guards are good, but they got all the space they needed supplied by the crappy calling.

    Prins gets called for a flagrant, then McFarland does the same exact thing to Hallie, no call, not even a review.

    Bad. Bad. Bad.

    Pop rocks. Moody and Brynn had flashes, but also had some careless mistakes that are so not ISU. Did like the look of Moody's pull up 2s.

    It's clear we could have used Schroll's toughness, but when we don't hit threes, we hurt.



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    Re: Twister Sister Summary - ugliness in Soonerville

    One positive I took is that the start of both the first and second half, ISU looked good. Pretty much had control of the game up until the 12 minute mark in first half, then Moody got 2nd foul.



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    Re: Twister Sister Summary - ugliness in Soonerville

    Ugh. Depressing. Not the result I had predicted since we only lost to them by 3 points last year. Guess their players have developed more off-season, especially McFarland.

    Meanwhile, don't look now but some big things happened last night to indicate wins will be extremely hard to come by for the Cyclones. Kansas improved to 12-1 by beating #25 Texas in Austin, and K-State beat #8 Texas A&M. Texas Tech is still undefeated. Yikes.



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    Re: Twister Sister Summary - ugliness in Soonerville

    Cous,

    Thanks for the detailed write up (great as usual). I wasn't able to watch the game. Did you see any repercussion in the mental aspect of this game from the loss of Schroll? Obviously, her defensive and offensive contributions were gone, but I was concerned on the sisters performance/approach, aggressiveness in response to her being gone.



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    Re: Twister Sister Summary - ugliness in Soonerville

    Maybe Bill will work his magic the next two months, but right now, it looks like they'll be one of the four playing the opening round in KC.



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    Re: Twister Sister Summary - ugliness in Soonerville

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneBob View Post
    Cous,

    Thanks for the detailed write up (great as usual). I wasn't able to watch the game. Did you see any repercussion in the mental aspect of this game from the loss of Schroll? Obviously, her defensive and offensive contributions were gone, but I was concerned on the sisters performance/approach, aggressiveness in response to her being gone.
    Outside of the first part of the game, this team...coaches included...was just flat. No flow. Hustle level was non-existent if you remove pop. To place blame on the Schroll transfer would be pure speculation. Let's see what this team does Saturday when they are playing a really good team. (not that OU isn't good, but they were very beatable.)



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    Re: Twister Sister Summary - ugliness in Soonerville

    I figured it would be a tall task to get a win in Norman, but this is an OU team that is solid but no way should we have lost by almost 30. Throw in that last night KSU and KU were beating TAMU and Texas- (KU was in Austin), it could be a long year.


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    Rulzzz 3:16 says I just liked your post!

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    Re: Twister Sister Summary - ugliness in Soonerville

    Quote Originally Posted by acoustimac View Post
    The first half started just as you would want it to. ISU came out relatively sharp and would run out to an 18-10 lead before the wheels came off. The name of the game was to get the ball to Pop and she was doing all she could hitting practically every shot she took. The part that worried me was the lack of offense from our guard court and the lack of defense overall as OU would hit nearly 47% in the first stanza.

    OU went on a 15-0 run over a 6 minute spread starting at the 10 minute mark of the half to take a nine point lead before Pop would finally hit a short jumper to end that streak with 2:30 left. OU was really on fire offensively and ISU was struggling against the defense. Then it got worse when Prins was called for a flagrant foul. McFarland was given free throws and possession. This spread the lead out to 10 (20-30). OU would keep the pressure on and our guards didn't handle it well. ISU had 12 turnovers and only 19 shots in the first half and had some key ones late in the half that helped OU extend the lead to 13 at the half after going on a 23-3 run. ISU would only score 2 points in the last 10:30 of the first half. This was as bad a melt down as I've seen in quite some time. Our guards simply couldn't handle the pressure. Add to that, McFarland was having a field day (no pun intended) scoring 14 points and grabbing 6 boards. Points off turnovers? OU had 18. OU would lead 33-20.

    One thing that was disturbing was watching one offensive series where Ellenberg was literally beating Cole up at the 4 minute mark. These officials weren't calling it. She got hammered on three times before Cole got called for an offensive foul. Unbelievable. This, to me is a problem in the Big-12 that has been evolving for the last couple of years. This game is becoming much more physical.

    The halftime speech and adjustments would have to be an interesting one if the sisters had any hope of getting back into this game. Unfortunately it wouldn't happen.

    ISU would start out right as Pop took a charge on OU's first possession and Moody would convert at the other end. I was thinking our defense was looking better just as Hood would blow by three players to score. She made us look very, very slow. A key was Griffin picking up her 3rd foul early and having to leave the game. Interestingly, the officials seemed to be calling the game a little tighter. In one possession, OU picked up three fouls! Unfortunately, Pop would only hit one free throw and it was a 12 point lead. The biggest problem facing the sisters was having to come back from the double digit deficit. They did some good things…mainly Pop and Moody…but also kept making mistakes. Playing even ball just wasn't going to cut it and four minutes in OU still led by 11. Prins was ineffective until late in the game. Many of the other players were completely ineffective. It seemed like a Pop and Moody show and that won't win many ball games. Another 3 and OU suddenly led by 15 at the 13 minute mark.

    The game was beginning to get ugly. Our ladies in red were consistently getting one shot and then having to sprint to the other end. Missed shots and OU conversions continued to stretch this lead and you could see the game slipping away as OU led by 18. One thing that was consistent was Pop. This lady just doesn't quit. We need a few more of her as no one else seems to know how to finish.

    Have to give credit where credit is due. Prins hit one of the prettiest and longest 3 pointers that I've seen this year about midway through the half. We were still down a bunch, but man…hearing the announcers nearly go speechless was almost worth it.

    Several things were clear about ISU after watching this game. We do not have anyone but Pop that we can actually depend on for scoring. Big C continues to struggle to find her offensive game and the freshmen are really going to learn some tough lessons during the Big 12 season. The big question is…who will step up to help out? You'd like to think it would be the upperclassmen, but right now that doesn't appear to be happening.

    Moody would foul out after ISU pulled within 13. Interesting stat…the keys to victory in this game were defending the three and making your free throws. We definitely failed at the first as OU hit in the double digits and converted over 60%. Free throws? OU surely tried to help there as they are much worse shooters than we are. Yet we didn't help ourselves by hitting in the high 60% range. The final dagger for us was a lack of offensive capability as we continue to struggle from behind the arc and yet we continue to put them up.

    The ladies never gave up and made a couple of short runs to pull closer but never could get over the hump. In the end rushed shots and OU's offense would allow OU to pull away and easily win.

    So who did well? As you could tell Pop was a monster. She scored and rebounded throughout the game. The only time she wasn't was when she was on the bench. Prins made some points late in the game, but she also had some air balls and missed some bunny shots again. Brynn made a couple of nice 3's and Moody had her moments although there were few of them. Not much else to say that was positive tonight. OU pretty much had their way with ISU for the last 30 minutes of the game.

    Its going to sound like an old harpy, but this team is still searching for an identity. I'm hoping its not what we are seeing…a team that can't score and can be pushed around by aggressive defense. The team has to find an outside scorer and someone needs to compliment Pop inside. That means Prins or Big-C have got to show up during crunch time. 9 assists to 16 turnovers won't cut it. Our players have to value the ball. Finally…we have to follow Bill's mantra of making more free throws than the other team shoots. Tonight OU shot 24 and we made 9.

    We have a big task in front of us for Saturday. If we don't at least get our defense in gear it could get ugly early. To me the bigger concern is actually offense. We were one and done most of the night and that will lead to scores like we saw tonight. Final score 80-51. It was just as ugly as the score.

    So does this mean 11 points and 6 rebounds by Anna means she did not show up? What about 10 points and 6 rebounds from Chassidy is this nothing also?



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    Re: Twister Sister Summary - ugliness in Soonerville

    ISU was -3 in the 25 minutes Moody was in the game and -26 in the 15 minutes she wasn't. They were -14 when she was out with foul trouble in the first half and -15 after she fouled out. (They were +3 one time she was on the bench briefly, adding up to -26.)



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    Re: Twister Sister Summary - ugliness in Soonerville

    Quote Originally Posted by mred View Post
    ISU was -3 in the 25 minutes Moody was in the game and -26 in the 15 minutes she wasn't. They were -14 when she was out with foul trouble in the first half and -15 after she fouled out. (They were +3 one time she was on the bench briefly, adding up to -26.)
    amazing stats MRed, as always. :-) The turning point in the game was when Moody went to the bench with 2 fouls and BF tried to sit her out the half.

    while I am one not to usually gripe about officiating, our guards bared the brunt of it last night, and it showed. An odd game, tons of fouls called in the guard court, but hardly any in the post. Our posts only had 6 of our 22 fouls.

    OU's guards got away with some extreme armbars throughout the game, and then ISU guards got called for blocking. Cole nearly got mauled, then when she drove she got called for an offensive foul.

    Just a bad recipe. McFarland got hot. OU shot lights out, like 60% from 3, HC didn't have a great night, calls not going our way, our 3 shooting was not good.



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    Quote Originally Posted by kcdc4isu View Post
    So does this mean 11 points and 6 rebounds by Anna means she did not show up? What about 10 points and 6 rebounds from Chassidy is this nothing also?
    To me its all about when you provide those points. Prins was missing shot after shot when the game was still in contention. Most of her points were late when it had slipped away. Chas I'll give you as this was above her norm in points. She always pulls some boards which is a good thing. My generality about the team is that they were flat. Slow on defense. Not shifting well. Many factors enter into this imo...including how the game was officiated, how it was coached, and numerous other events surrounding this one.



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    I just don't see much vocal leadership out there. Maybe that will have to be Nikki with both her actions and her words....but will the upperclassmen accept that from her?

    Also, to me this team does not to be nearly as good of a shooting team......especially from outside....as ISU has had in the past. If that does not improve.......it could be a very long season. What I am talking about is not just a shooting percentage but shot selection, and the speed before the decision is made to shoot, and getting the shot off. It seems to me like sometimes our shooters think too much before they put it up.


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