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    Re: MESS named OC

    They moved him to Wide Recievers this year because he did so well with the TE's and Special Teams. So you can't count his wide receiver success with only one year of coaching them.


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    Re: MESS named OC

    I like the hire. Coach Mess is a Coach, and has proven it with the Tight Ends and the improved performance of the WR's this year, especially the young guys. We need someone that is a teacher first and system guy second. Mess I am sure has some great ideas on how to improve the offense. Hopefully, he is hands on like CPR and is on the sidelines during games.


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    Re: MESS named OC

    Quote Originally Posted by State43 View Post
    I really hope CPR knows what he is doing. The brains of the guy that coaches the worst area on offense for the last how many years now controls the whole offense. Best of luck to him, but I raise an eyebrow at this call.
    Yeah, he's a noob at this deal, doesn't have a clue.



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    Re: MESS named OC

    Quote Originally Posted by Stewo View Post
    This is all I need to know that he's the right hire...

    "I am excited about Courtney taking over the reins of the offense," Iowa State head coach Paul Rhoads said. "Courtney has coached at every level of college football and has head coach and coordinator experience. He has earned this opportunity through hard work and positive results as a coach and as a recruiter. We have the right man."

    I trust CPR.
    I agree. I think it's a good hire.

    We know the terminology and system will stay the same which is better for the players.

    The one thing people need to remember is just because the system stays the same doesn't mean the play calling will. For all we know Mess could be 10 times as aggressive as Herman was with his play calls. Just because the offensive terminology and sets will be the same doesn't mean it will be the same results as under Herman.



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    Re: MESS named OC

    Someone mentioned this wasn't a sexy hire, but I'm fine with that. I trust Rhoads.

    We have a larger pool of money but you also don't want to constantly make outside hires. If you don't promote from within from time to time then what is the incentive for coaches to stick around?



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    Re: MESS named OC

    If Mess can adjust when faced with adversity on the field and can utilitize the talent we have in a creative way to make it work, im all for it.



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    Re: MESS named OC

    I think you have to trust CPR on this. He wants to win more than anyone. If he thinks Messingham is the right guy for his offense, then he would be in a position to know since he's worked with him closely.



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    Re: MESS named OC

    Sexier hire...

    A) Gene Chizik
    B) Paul Rhoads



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    Re: MESS named OC

    Good for him. I like the hire and had a hunch that CPR would hire from within all along. He deserves a shot to prove himself in a larger role. It allows for the players to not skip a beat in terms of understanding the offense.



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    Re: MESS named OC

    Quote Originally Posted by FarminCy View Post
    I agree. I think it's a good hire.

    We know the terminology and system will stay the same which is better for the players.

    The one thing people need to remember is just because the system stays the same doesn't mean the play calling will. For all we know Mess could be 10 times as aggressive as Herman was with his play calls. Just because the offensive terminology and sets will be the same doesn't mean it will be the same results as under Herman.
    Exactly, just because he worked under Herman doesn't mean he agreed with all Hermans play calling. When I played I was very vocal on the sidelines about playcalling (offensive and defensive) got me some bad looks from coaches but oh well.



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    Re: MESS named OC

    I talked with Mess a bit at last year's recruiting party, and must say I'm a fan. Down to earth guy who is very passionate about this team, just like CPR. I could tell he is ALL IN, & I fully support this decision.



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    Re: MESS named OC

    Please oh please have at least a few plays our quarterbacks can go under center..... Not a lot, but some!!.... Thanks in advance coach mess



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    Re: MESS named OC

    Quote Originally Posted by FarminCy View Post
    I agree. I think it's a good hire.

    We know the terminology and system will stay the same which is better for the players.

    The one thing people need to remember is just because the system stays the same doesn't mean the play calling will. For all we know Mess could be 10 times as aggressive as Herman was with his play calls. Just because the offensive terminology and sets will be the same doesn't mean it will be the same results as under Herman.
    Pretty much exactly what I was going to say.

    The other thing I'd add is that WRs improved quite a bit from last year to this year. The seniors were still dropping balls, but guys were getting open much more frequently and actually getting the fabled YAC.


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    Re: MESS named OC

    It doesn't scream "Wow!" but he's probably a great hire. CPR knows what he's doing.


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    Re: MESS named OC

    I like it. Special teams, tight ends, and receivers all improved under his watch and he's a known quantity to the players. He strikes me as a sharp guy that's seen a lot in his day. I think he'll adjust better on the fly than Hermann did and will be a better game planner overall.

    And ultimately, I trust CPR so if it's good enough for him, it's more than good enough for me.



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