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    In Iowa State, Rutgers sees up-tempo offense they're designed to stop


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    Re: In Iowa State, Rutgers sees up-tempo offense they're designed to stop

    Good read thanks



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    Re: In Iowa State, Rutgers sees up-tempo offense they're designed to stop

    Good read.

    I see Rutgers overhauled their D to be faster and more athletic, we should do the same for next year, it sounds like a pretty simple task.



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    Re: In Iowa State, Rutgers sees up-tempo offense they're designed to stop

    Quote Originally Posted by nhclone View Post
    I see Rutgers overhauled their D to be faster and more athletic, we should do the same for next year, it sounds like a pretty simple task.
    I caught that too. Sounds like something Wally should look in to. Sounds like it should be a pretty simple thing to get done in one set of spring practices, right?



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    Re: In Iowa State, Rutgers sees up-tempo offense they're designed to stop

    they say they play a lot of dime and nickel.......i would think that means lots of woody! have fund DB's trying to tackle 250 lbs of a pure wood.



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    Re: In Iowa State, Rutgers sees up-tempo offense they're designed to stop

    Yep

    We moved:
    LB Manny Abreu to DE
    SS Kaseeme Green to WLB [2011-12 Big East Co-Defensive player of the year]
    Some of our corner backs to saftey (2011-2012 tops in the nation in pass defense including ints)
    Some of our heavier DEs to 3tech
    And some of our 3techs to NT...

    We will be adding some more size without reduction in speed in the next few years (redshirted recruits and more time in our S&T program)... It has been a fairly successful defense this year... Great against the spread (5 out of 11 d1 schools played)...


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    Re: In Iowa State, Rutgers sees up-tempo offense they're designed to stop

    its a good thing that Big 12 teams don't try to plan their defenses around stopping the spread. If Oklahoma State had recruited their defense to stop spread teams instead of power I teams we might have lost.


    I think its great that they have moved some of their players around to make their defense more explosive, but it will be similar to defenses that we faced week in and week out in the Big 12.



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    Re: In Iowa State, Rutgers sees up-tempo offense they're designed to stop

    Quote Originally Posted by erikbj View Post
    they say they play a lot of dime and nickel.......i would think that means lots of woody! have fund DB's trying to tackle 250 lbs of a pure wood.
    We pretty much always play in nickel when in 4-3 since our WILL LB is a converted SS. It seems to me that we have to force you guys into a lot of 3rd and longs (similar to what we did with Cincinnati) since you'll likely convert 3rd and short or 4th and short with your back woody...

    We had the same concerns with Cincinnati's power RB Iseiah Pead (2011-12 BE offensive player of the year will also be drafted in the 2012 NFL draft) coupled with their running QB... By forcing them to 3rd and long consistently we only gave up 3 points to them (IIRC Pead got 50yds on 25 carries for the game).


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    Re: In Iowa State, Rutgers sees up-tempo offense they're designed to stop

    If our O-line comes to play, our running game could have a hey-day
    The speed on D with lighter players works if they can stay off blocks & tackle well.
    If we get a hat on hat consistently, our offense will be effective.


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    Re: In Iowa State, Rutgers sees up-tempo offense they're designed to stop

    Quote Originally Posted by blitz8ru View Post
    We pretty much always play in nickel when in 4-3 since our WILL LB is a converted SS. It seems to me that we have to force you guys into a lot of 3rd and longs (similar to what we did with Cincinnati) since you'll likely convert 3rd and short or 4th and short with your back woody...

    We had the same concerns with Cincinnati's Iseiah Pead (2011-12 BE offensive player of the year) with their running QB... By forcing them to 3rd and long consistently we only gave up 3 points to them (IIRC Pead got 50yds on 25 carries for the game).
    Interesting. Against spread teams we have also played our nickel back (converted Strong Safety) at the WLB spot. Seems like our defenses are relatively similar in scheme.

    The good thing about our offense is that we have been able to run succeessfully while still spreading out the D. If you go to your "speedy" 4-3 and your WLB has to play outside on our slot receiver, we should be able to power through with all of our RBs. Woody is the big power back who just runs dudes over. White is our small, shifty RB. He has done well hitting the whole quickly on the inside and has busted a few good runs. Duck Hollis has had some very good, but sporadic carries. Seems like every time he gets in there, he breaks it, but he doesn't get in there a ton.



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    Re: In Iowa State, Rutgers sees up-tempo offense they're designed to stop

    I think a "faster" (read: smaller) defense bodes well for us. Our spread is very much a run-first spread, and a type of power rushing attack at that (not many spreads use backs like Woody or go between the tackles as often as we do). I am sure we will see plenty of Woody on the give between the tackles and with our offensive line and RU's undersized defense, that should be there unless RU loads the box (hard to do against a 3 or 4-wide spread) or starts selling out LBs on the run, which frees up Barnett to sling it around to open receivers over the middle.

    Friday needs to get here soon.


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    Re: In Iowa State, Rutgers sees up-tempo offense they're designed to stop

    Quote Originally Posted by CyFan61 View Post
    I think a "faster" (read: smaller) defense bodes well for us. Our spread is very much a run-first spread, and a type of power rushing attack at that. I am sure we will see plenty of Woody on the give between the tackles and with our offensive line and RU's undersized defense, that should be there unless RU loads the box (hard to do against a 3 or 4-wide spread) or starts selling out LBs on the run, which frees up Barnett to sling it around to open receivers over the middle.

    Friday needs to get here soon.
    If they try to load up inside I can see a lot of bubble screens on the outside getting consistent yardage.



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    Re: In Iowa State, Rutgers sees up-tempo offense they're designed to stop

    Quote Originally Posted by blitz8ru View Post
    We pretty much always play in nickel when in 4-3 since our WILL LB is a converted SS. It seems to me that we have to force you guys into a lot of 3rd and longs (similar to what we did with Cincinnati) since you'll likely convert 3rd and short or 4th and short with your back woody...

    We had the same concerns with Cincinnati's power RB Iseiah Pead (2011-12 BE offensive player of the year will also be drafted in the 2012 NFL draft) coupled with their running QB... By forcing them to 3rd and long consistently we only gave up 3 points to them (IIRC Pead got 50yds on 25 carries for the game).
    You'll have to make that 4th and long. Otherwise, in a bowl game, we're going for it.



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    Re: In Iowa State, Rutgers sees up-tempo offense they're designed to stop

    Quote Originally Posted by BigLame View Post
    If our O-line comes to play, our running game could have a hey-day
    The speed on D with lighter players works if they can stay off blocks & tackle well.
    If we get a hat on hat consistently, our offense will be effective.
    My thoughts exactly. ISU isn't a throw-the-ball-around-the-field spread. The ISU offense is more of an up-tempo, off-tackle rushing attack. I don't know enough about football to know what that means against a speedy, small defense, but ISU certainly doesn't fit the Mike Leach, Gary Pinkel, Urban Meyer description of the spread. I suppose it could work to ISU's favor in getting push from the O-Line, but Rutgers may also have enough speed to slow down the zone-read?!?



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    Re: In Iowa State, Rutgers sees up-tempo offense they're designed to stop

    Quote Originally Posted by CyFan61 View Post
    I think a "faster" (read: smaller) defense bodes well for us. Our spread is very much a run-first spread, and a type of power rushing attack at that (not many spreads use backs like Woody or go between the tackles as often as we do). I am sure we will see plenty of Woody on the give between the tackles and with our offensive line and RU's undersized defense, that should be there unless RU loads the box (hard to do against a 3 or 4-wide spread) or starts selling out LBs on the run, which frees up Barnett to sling it around to open receivers over the middle.

    Friday needs to get here soon.
    When they stack the box and sell out to stop woody is when we get the ball to Jarvis West.



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