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    Every team is copying Rhoads' Onside Kick Scheme

    I've seen it three times today!



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    Re: Every team is copying Rhoads' Onside Kick Scheme

    Watching Louisville perhaps?



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    Re: Every team is copying Rhoads' Onside Kick Scheme

    Yes, because Rhoads was the one who came up with the surprise onside kick, just like he came up with the backup punter being a good person to throw it on fake extra points. Wait... too far...



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    Re: Every team is copying Rhoads' Onside Kick Scheme

    That was a stupid, stupid onside kick in that situation by louisville.



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    Re: Every team is copying Rhoads' Onside Kick Scheme

    Yep CPR was the first coach ever to onside kick when it wasn't expected.


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    Re: Every team is copying Rhoads' Onside Kick Scheme

    Quote Originally Posted by cycarob View Post
    Yes, because Rhoads was the one who came up with the surprise onside kick, just like he came up with the backup punter being a good person to throw it on fake extra points. Wait... too far...
    Too soon, too soon



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    Re: Every team is copying Rhoads' Onside Kick Scheme

    What are you talking about? An alignment? The fact that it's a surprise? I'm not sure what you mean by "copying his scheme." There's only so many ways to do an onside kick. And as far as the surprise part is concerned, it's about time coaches started trying this. Hopefully the next trend will be going for it on 4th down more often.


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    Re: Every team is copying Rhoads' Onside Kick Scheme

    I didnt see the kicks but im guessing he means the kick pass strategy. I hadnt seen anyone do it except us.



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    Re: Every team is copying Rhoads' Onside Kick Scheme

    Quote Originally Posted by cycarob View Post
    Yes, because Rhoads was the one who came up with the surprise onside kick, just like he came up with the backup punter being a good person to throw it on fake extra points. Wait... too far...
    I had all but forgotten about that until you brought that up...
    BRING NEG REP BACK!



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    Re: Every team is copying Rhoads' Onside Kick Scheme

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhoadhoused View Post
    I didnt see the kicks but im guessing he means the kick pass strategy. I hadnt seen anyone do it except us.
    I'm talking about this but mostly blocking before the catch. I thought in another thread that was supposed to be called "kick-catch interference," but I've seen it utilized multiple times lately with no call.



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    Re: Every team is copying Rhoads' Onside Kick Scheme

    ISU's version is to kick it in the air to the outermost player along the side-line. This must be the kick-pass others are referring to.
    Cowher with the Pittsburgh Steelers did this in their last Superbowl vs the Cowboys, but a little different than what we've been executing.

    Just slays me how Mahoney can execute this so well, yet struggle w/FG, PATs

    What I would be concerned is Rutgers pulling an on-side kick or fake punt/FG on us in the bowl. Like a basketball analogy - full court press a team the full court presses you. Two can play that game!


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    Re: Every team is copying Rhoads' Onside Kick Scheme

    Quote Originally Posted by BigLame View Post
    ISU's version is to kick it in the air to the outermost player along the side-line. This must be the kick-pass others are referring to.
    Cowher with the Pittsburgh Steelers did this in their last Superbowl vs the Cowboys, but a little different than what we've been executing.

    Just slays me how Mahoney can execute this so well, yet struggle w/FG, PATs

    What I would be concerned is Rutgers pulling an on-side kick or fake punt/FG on us in the bowl. Like a basketball analogy - full court press a team the full court presses you. Two can play that game!
    Different skill set, but I'm just glad he can pull it off.

    As much as PATs/FGs have hurt us, Mahoney's kickoffs and onsides have helped us that much more. He's changed games for the positive this year more than he's "lost" games on kicks (part of it is because our losses this year didn't come down to a crucial kick.)



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    Re: Every team is copying Rhoads' Onside Kick Scheme

    Quote Originally Posted by JUKEBOX View Post
    I'm talking about this but mostly blocking before the catch. I thought in another thread that was supposed to be called "kick-catch interference," but I've seen it utilized multiple times lately with no call.
    The danger is one of the upmen signaling for a fair catch. He then could not be blocked and he'd have to be given an opportunity to catch the ball.



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    Re: Every team is copying Rhoads' Onside Kick Scheme

    Quote Originally Posted by JUKEBOX View Post
    I'm talking about this but mostly blocking before the catch. I thought in another thread that was supposed to be called "kick-catch interference," but I've seen it utilized multiple times lately with no call.
    Quote Originally Posted by Clark View Post
    The danger is one of the upmen signaling for a fair catch. He then could not be blocked and he'd have to be given an opportunity to catch the ball.
    If the ball is kicked into the ground first, it can't be fair caught. Other than officials making up offsides penalties, that's the biggest issue with the soft liner that ISU uses.



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    Re: Every team is copying Rhoads' Onside Kick Scheme

    Thought maybe this was more of Rhoads' Sideline Air Guitar Scheme.
    Would like to see more coaches windmillin' & jumping along the sides.


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