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    Bates: I only want to play QB

    Here is an article in the CR Gazette regarding Phillip Bates. Its good read, but brings up the speculating QB battle. Bates came to ISU specifically to play QB. Citing the article, it specifically states he came to ISU for the QB position and is excited to turn full attention to the position come next year.

    To be honest, this worries me some. I would hate for him to become a transfer based on his need to want to play QB. With Josh Jordan citing that he was the only QB recruit this year, but to have Tiller come in specifically to play QB as well, I feel we have a lot of kids who only want to do one thing. I hope this year is a tale that Bates is more open minded to make a contribution to this team because I think he will be well recieved by the fans if he does. I'm not saying that Arnaud has already been chosen as the QB for the future, but with the playing time the coaches are givig him at the position over Bates, its a pretty good indicatioin.

    Any way, what you do you think?

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    Re: Bates: I only want to play QB

    Quote Originally Posted by guitarchitect7 View Post
    Here is an article in the CR Gazette regarding Phillip Bates. Its good read, but brings up the speculating QB battle. Bates came to ISU specifically to play QB. Citing the article, it specifically states he came to ISU for the QB position and is excited to turn full attention to the position come next year.

    To be honest, this worries me some. I would hate for him to become a transfer based on his need to want to play QB. With Josh Jordan citing that he was the only QB recruit this year, but to have Tiller come in specifically to play QB as well, I feel we have a lot of kids who only want to do one thing. I hope this year is a tale that Bates is more open minded to make a contribution to this team because I think he will be well recieved by the fans if he does. I'm not saying that Arnaud has already been chosen as the QB for the future, but with the playing time the coaches are givig him at the position over Bates, its a pretty good indicatioin.

    Any way, what you do you think?

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    What a concept-stiff competition. I wish we had that probelm at every position. Strap it on and the best player gets the PT. If we had more of this problem, we would be 4-0, not 1-3.



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    Re: Bates: I only want to play QB

    This is a bit troubling. It is really hard to say what is going to happen. Bates could be a great wide receiver. Who is the better runner? Bates or Anaud?

    With the recruits coming in, it definately appears we have a log-jam being created at the quarterback position.



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    Re: Bates: I only want to play QB

    i think the article is typical for the gazette. It starts out as an ISU piece but 1/3 of the way it is a bigten piece then an Iowa piece. I am sure the gazette sees it as a favor for that to be in their paper.

    Now about Bates: I have no doubt he will win out for the QB spot. GC is looking 3-4 years down the road when the team is full of his recruits. But if that doesn't happen, I see him accepting it and being a play maker on Offense.

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    Re: Bates: I only want to play QB

    It's good, this doesn't freak me out. I feel confident, seeing how Bates endured all that hazing to come to ISU, he's a Cyclone.

    What is he supposed to say? "It's ok if I don't beat out Arnaud, I'll just play receiver".? Of course he wants to be THE quarterback. Didn't Flynn?

    But he'll see that, IF he's not the guy, he can help the team and himself by switching positions - just as Flynn recognized that.

    Bates has a head start realizing that, already getting to play that position.

    Plus, if Bates was our QB of the future, he'd be coming in instead of Arnaud. I still think Arnaud is our QB next fall and Bates will play receiver and some QB.

    Personally, I don't care who's under center as long as that guy gets the job done.



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    Re: Bates: I only want to play QB

    I am kinda rooting for Jerome Tiller as the QB for next year, but I agree: this is a great "problem" to have. I think Austen Arnaud could be a damn good QB too...Phillip Bates has the potential more than the other two to play other positions, I think he could make a great WR/CB, but if he can outplay the other guys than all the power to him, let him be QB.

    I hope Chizik has ISU having more of the too many talented guys at one position "problem" in the future...


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    Re: Bates: I only want to play QB

    Well I realize that this is a "good" position to be in, but a troubling one at that too. Arnaud at this point only seems to be the more open minded one about position changes (I say this without knowing any of the players, only an interpretation), but also seems to be the one who is already set at that position.


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    Re: Bates: I only want to play QB

    But he'll see that, IF he's not the guy, he can help the team and himself by switching positions - just as Flynn recognized that.
    I believe this whole-heartedly. This, however, is based on his friend/girlfriend/sister telling me that she was making a poster for him out of the photo of him making the catch in the Iowa game because he was "so excited to help the team win."

    To me, that says that as long as he can help, he'll stick around.


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    Re: Bates: I only want to play QB

    How about this....Lets get try and get a killer O and D-Line, then they will make average players look really good.



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    Re: Bates: I only want to play QB

    Quote Originally Posted by isucyclone4 View Post
    I am kinda rooting for Jerome Tiller as the QB for next year, but I agree: this is a great "problem" to have. I think Austen Arnaud could be a damn good QB too...Phillip Bates has the potential more than the other two to play other positions, I think he could make a great WR/CB, but if he can outplay the other guys than all the power to him, let him be QB.

    I hope Chizik has ISU having more of the too many talented guys at one position "problem" in the future...
    I would think Jerome would be red-shirted especially since it appears we have Arnaud and Bates both with 3 more years of eligibility.



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    Re: Bates: I only want to play QB

    I would love to see Bates throw some passes this year. They need to add a few passes to his package so it's not so obvious what he's going to do when he's in at QB. I don't think he's gained a yard running yet when they've done that.

    Of course, we had Flynn at WR for two years and never did much from a trick play standpoint with him. I'm pretty sure the first time we did a WR pass was at Lincoln in 2005 in OT when you can't stretch the field for it to be successful. :(



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    Re: Bates: I only want to play QB

    Either Bates is really good at QB and will play at Iowa State, or he'd have a tough time transfering anywhere else to play. If we was behind a superstar it would be different.



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    Re: Bates: I only want to play QB

    Quote Originally Posted by guitarchitect7 View Post
    Well I realize that this is a "good" position to be in, but a troubling one at that too. Arnaud at this point only seems to be the more open minded one about position changes (I say this without knowing any of the players, only an interpretation), but also seems to be the one who is already set at that position.
    Interpretation from what exactly?

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    I believe this whole-heartedly. This, however, is based on his friend/girlfriend/sister telling me that she was making a poster for him out of the photo of him making the catch in the Iowa game because he was "so excited to help the team win."

    To me, that says that as long as he can help, he'll stick around.
    Neat. Very neat. He should be damn proud/excited. Thanks for sharing that!



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    Re: Bates: I only want to play QB

    I think Bates will adapt pretty quickly. He's not as set on only playing the QB position as the article would imply. Bates wants to help the team and he knows that it might not be at the QB spot, despite what he might say in a newspaper out east. We have plenty of talent coming in and they won't all end up playing the spot they first envisioned.


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    Re: Bates: I only want to play QB

    Bates deserves a full shot at the QB job next year with Arnaud. If he is not the #1 out of camp then I fully expect him to take on an other role. Hopefully by that time he is attached to Iowa State University itself and doesn't pull a Ryan Bain.

    I hope that Arnaud does win the job because Bates has already shown his massive potential as a receiver. With him, RJ, and Hamilton; we would have a very good receiving core. And even if he is not the starter, it doesn't mean he can't get reps there. I think he is going to have a special career here at ISU.



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