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    Campus Security

    With over a year of service Ankeny Campus Security was tested this past tuesday. A fight broke out on the second level in the new Ankeny High School. The security guard failed to separate the students from each other, and no securtiy guard came for back-up. Instead a teacher.
    Thoughts on having these guys in school?

    All they do is monitor the halls and give parking tickets.




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    Re: Campus Security

    Quote Originally Posted by RollsRoyce View Post
    With over a year of service Ankeny Campus Security was tested this past tuesday. A fight broke out on the second level in the new Ankeny High School. The security guard failed to separate the students from each other, and no securtiy guard came for back-up. Instead a teacher.
    Thoughts on having these guys in school?

    All they do is monitor the halls and give parking tickets.
    OMG a fight broke out in a high school? This type of thing is unheard of!



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    Re: Campus Security

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckd4735 View Post
    OMG a fight broke out in a high school? This type of thing is unheard of!
    The point is why does the school hire these guys if they can't do their job? A teacher had to do it for him. Why pay thousands of dollars a year?




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    Re: Campus Security

    Unfortunately they are a necessary precaution. I would rather have them there than not when my child needed it.



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    Re: Campus Security

    Quote Originally Posted by RollsRoyce View Post
    The point is why does the school hire these guys if they can't do their job? A teacher had to do it for him. Why pay thousands of dollars a year?
    Depends on the situation there and behind the scenes. Methinks the facts arent all here.



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    Re: Campus Security

    Quote Originally Posted by RollsRoyce View Post
    The point is why does the school hire these guys if they can't do their job? A teacher had to do it for him. Why pay thousands of dollars a year?
    No, I get your point. Im not making fun of you, just the situation. In today age, its probably necessary to have some sort of security at a high school, but if they cant even break up a fight, how can you trust them to take down a kid with a weapon? Knowing how much I pay the Ankeny schools each year, it does bother me to hear this. I have no problem with them hiring the service, but at least make sure that service is competent.



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    Re: Campus Security

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckd4735 View Post
    No, I get your point. Im not making fun of you, just the situation. In today age, its probably necessary to have some sort of security at a high school, but if they cant even break up a fight, how can you trust them to take down a kid with a weapon? Knowing how much I pay the Ankeny schools each year, it does bother me to hear this. I have no problem with them hiring the service, but at least make sure that service is competent.
    Im curious as to the training they get as far as assessing the situation and what they can legally do in response without getting sued. I wouldnt have messed with the security guys at my highschool back in the 90's. Those guys were brutes.



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    Re: Campus Security

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckd4735 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RollsRoyce View Post
    With over a year of service Ankeny Campus Security was tested this past tuesday. A fight broke out on the second level in the new Ankeny High School. The security guard failed to separate the students from each other, and no securtiy guard came for back-up. Instead a teacher. Thoughts on having these guys in school? All they do is monitor the halls and give parking tickets.
    OMG a fight broke out in a high school? This type of thing is unheard of!
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    Re: Campus Security

    Because our idea of security is a trained monkey, and they are usually paid as such. I am always one to say, "If you don't like your job, quit." But I have worked security Most of the time, it's a job that pays enough for you to usually say, "I'm not sacrificing myself for $8/hr." Then there is the whole liability issue on top of that.

    Maybe they should look into a deal with the police force. A lot of them here have an officer who's job it is to be at the school all day. Then again, I look at that as a little too much. I've seen police, my own friends included, throw their power around for no good reason at times.

    Then again, it was just a fight, they happened all the time when I was in school over 20 years ago and the teachers were the ones who usually broke them up.



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    Re: Campus Security

    I will preface this with saying I don't know anything about the setup at Ankeny High School. However, it depends on what they are asked to do. Many times someone who wants to do harm will create a diversion (a fight, for example) so that the real threat can get where they want to go and cause the real harm. If they have been trained to ignore something at this level and watch for those with weapons, then that is what they did.

    Again, I don't know what they have been trained for, but apparently no one knows in this thread. I agree with the poster who said we probably don't know all the facts in this case.


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    Re: Campus Security

    Is breaking up fights in their job description? From what I remember of our security while in high school they were there more to prevent vandalism and sneaking out. Teachers (wrestling and football coaches mainly) handled hallway crowd control and order.

    Also, what would have happened if the guard tackled one of the fighters and the student got hurt? I'm sure that the school would be getting sued.



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    Re: Campus Security

    Quote Originally Posted by RollsRoyce View Post
    With over a year of service Ankeny Campus Security was tested this past tuesday. A fight broke out on the second level in the new Ankeny High School. The security guard failed to separate the students from each other, and no securtiy guard came for back-up. Instead a teacher.
    Thoughts on having these guys in school?

    All they do is monitor the halls and give parking tickets.
    In Cedar Rapids a couple of the high schools have officers from the CRPD on campus full time.



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    Re: Campus Security

    Quote Originally Posted by CloneHead View Post
    In Cedar Rapids a couple of the high schools have officers from the CRPD on campus full time.
    Ankeny replaced their school resource officers with Per Mar security guards. You get what you pay for.



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