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    Rockies-Padres

    It didn't look like the winning run touched home base; what do you think?



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    Re: Rockies-Padres

    The local ump (Des Moines) McClelland blew the call.



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    Re: Rockies-Padres

    He did blow the call, but the Rockies also should ahve had a home run earlier in the game that was called a double.

    That was an unreal game.



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    Re: Rockies-Padres

    VICTORY!! WOO HOO! I'm really not a big baseball fan, but the playoffs are pretty fun. Lot of hung over/call-in-sick workers in denver tomorrow....


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    Re: Rockies-Padres

    Wow, what a game. I think it was almost too close to call....it'll be a tough offseason for the Padres.



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    Re: Rockies-Padres

    In the post game "on-field" interview Matt Holliday was asked if he touched the plate, he said, "I don't know. The Ump said I did so..."

    I'd say Ol' Mac blew it. He couldn't even call it immediately. I'm guessing he was thinking about getting out of Coors field alive.



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    Re: Rockies-Padres

    Quote Originally Posted by cyinthesky View Post
    I'd say Ol' Mac blew it. He couldn't even call it immediately. I'm guessing he was thinking about getting out of Coors field alive.
    I don't know if you watched all of the game or are familiar with Tim McCleland's umpiring style, but that's what he always does. He makes late signals on strikes and it's really annoying. You don't know what he's calling until like two seconds after the pitch is caught.

    I've always wondered if he says out loud what he's calling and just waits to make the signal, or if the hitter and catcher have no idea what he's calling right away either. That'd get old really fast.



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    Re: Rockies-Padres

    Quote Originally Posted by mwitt View Post
    I don't know if you watched all of the game or are familiar with Tim McCleland's umpiring style, but that's what he always does. He makes late signals on strikes and it's really annoying. You don't know what he's calling until like two seconds after the pitch is caught.
    I was going to say the same thing. He is slo-mo ump.



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    Re: Rockies-Padres

    I saw the replay a few times and I couldn't tell if Holliday touched the base or not. I thought the late call was because the catcher dropped the ball and so the ump called it once the ball rolled away. I actually went to HS w/ Holliday and I gotta tell ya, I'm happy as hell that he got the call.



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    Re: Rockies-Padres

    For the record, Tim McCleland is consistently voted as the top ump in the game by managers and players. They can't get them all right. Who cares, Go Rockies!



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    Re: Rockies-Padres

    And it sucks very much that TBS/TNT is doing all the division series. At least my Yankees have the ALCS on fox! Cubs gotta stay on TBS/TNT till the world series.



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    Re: Rockies-Padres

    Quote Originally Posted by mwitt View Post
    I don't know if you watched all of the game or are familiar with Tim McCleland's umpiring style, but that's what he always does. He makes late signals on strikes and it's really annoying. You don't know what he's calling until like two seconds after the pitch is caught.

    I've always wondered if he says out loud what he's calling and just waits to make the signal, or if the hitter and catcher have no idea what he's calling right away either. That'd get old really fast.
    I was going to refrain from saying, but I know Tim personally. I agree he does have somewhat delayed calls, not to mention he's been pretty inconsistant all night. Not that it's a negative, but just saying he's human. And in reference to that double you thought should've been a homerun... I'm sorry, but IMO I believe that ball needs to clear the fence & not bounce off of it and back into the field of play.



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    Re: Rockies-Padres

    Too many umpires pull the trigger too quickly. Once you make a call, that's it. You can't take it back, especially if it's a crucial pitch. You'll see guys get into a quick rhythm, and then hesitate on a close 3-2 pitch (for example). Once you hesitate, you're screwed. Whatever call you make at that point will have one of the managers up in your grill. Plate umpires are usually taught to make a 1-count after the pitch hits the mitt before making the call. Slow down and get it right.

    On the sac fly, McClelland was in the right position. The ball wasn't in his view until well after Holliday slid past the plate. It bounced under Barrett and was hidden by Barrett's leg until it rolled away. Once the ball rolled away, you know there's no tag. At that point, he called Holliday safe because he thought Holliday touched the plate.

    Can you imagine if he would've rung up the runner, only then to see the ball trickle away? Whoooooeeeee, coach. That would have incited a riot.

    Was the 'safe' call incorrect? I think so. Was the non-home run call earlier incorrect? Of course. The flight of the ball itself is the key. It went down, hit something, and then bounced back up into the field of play. Normally, a ball that goes off the face of the wall will bounce directly down to the field. A ball that hits the top of the wall will bounce up and away from the field.

    The left-field umpire would have had the best angle had he not positioned himself so close to third base.



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    Re: Rockies-Padres

    Quote Originally Posted by cyinthesky View Post
    I was going to refrain from saying, but I know Tim personally. I agree he does have somewhat delayed calls, not to mention he's been pretty inconsistant all night. Not that it's a negative, but just saying he's human. And in reference to that double you thought should've been a homerun... I'm sorry, but IMO I believe that ball needs to clear the fence & not bounce off of it and back into the field of play.
    I don't think Tim is a bad umpire. I've also heard good things about him. It's just annoying watching it as a fan. I didn't realize he was from Des Moines.

    I didn't see the actual "home run" ruled a double. I was just told bya couple of my friends that the Rockies got screwed on the call, and I assumed that they weren't stupid. They might be.



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    Re: Rockies-Padres

    Quote Originally Posted by theshadow View Post
    Can you imagine if he would've rung up the runner, only then to see the ball trickle away? Whoooooeeeee, coach. That would have incited a riot.
    That happens all of the time. There would have been no such riot. What grounds would the rioters have? If the ball isn't held onto, the runner is safe. There's no arguing that.



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