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    2012 Defense

    Some on this board have stated that for the defense to improve next year, they will need to improve their effort against the run. While conference stats would support such a contention, I'm wondering if Wally Burnham's strategy is to give up a little against the run in order to better defend against the pass.

    In conference games only, ISU ranked 7th in rushing defense this year (204 yds/game), but the Clones ranked a more respectable 5th in scoring defense - aided by their pass defense (3rd in the conference).

    While it is incumbent on ISU to work on all facets of the defense this spring, maybe the stats are a bit misleading.



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    Re: 2012 Defense

    ISU has been bringing in a lot of good prospects for the DL. You will start seeing more and more of those players next year and in the future. The defense is only going to get better.


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    Re: 2012 Defense

    Our linebackers will help us stop the run. What worries me is breaking in new corners.


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    Re: 2012 Defense

    With the linebackers we have I'm not too concerned



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    Re: 2012 Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by mj4cy View Post
    Our linebackers will help us stop the run. What worries me is breaking in new corners.
    We have CPR who is a DB guy, not to mention Wally is our DC. I'm not worried about the defense at all.


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    Re: 2012 Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclone101 View Post
    With the linebackers we have I'm not too concerned
    Especially with the addition of Porter!


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    Re: 2012 Defense

    With guys like Irving and Pompy coming to the DL, we are in good shape. A great DL can mask the weaknesses of a defense, and well we don't have any weakness at LB. We have talent and great coaching at DB, I'm not worried one bit.


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    Re: 2012 Defense

    We saw a lot of time from the guys who will be playing in the defensive backfield this year.

    Reeves, Broomfield, Washington have all played a ton, and I think we'll see a lot of Givens, Watson, Lynn and maybe Brackens next year. Wouldn't mind seeing us pick up a lock-down JUCO guy though.


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    Re: 2012 Defense

    Part of that difference in stats is that with all of the 4-5 WR sets that we see, LB's have to drop back in pass coverage more often so they are not always able to concentrate on stopping the run. That leaves our D-line with a lot of that responsibility, which was improving throughout the year, but were gouged at times early in the season.



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    Re: 2012 Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneCurt View Post
    Some on this board have stated that for the defense to improve next year, they will need to improve their effort against the run. While conference stats would support such a contention, I'm wondering if Wally Burnham's strategy is to give up a little against the run in order to better defend against the pass.

    In conference games only, ISU ranked 7th in rushing defense this year (204 yds/game), but the Clones ranked a more respectable 5th in scoring defense - aided by their pass defense (3rd in the conference).

    While it is incumbent on ISU to work on all facets of the defense this spring, maybe the stats are a bit misleading.
    Very good view, I really agree, that Burnham does work a bend not break type defense and in the offensive climate that we are up against this is a very good plan for the most part, in this situation if the DL improves skill-wise, the overall rating of against the run will come around, I truly see with the recruits coming in(Hayes, Aka, Pompcey, and Irving) and the valuable experice that was received this year from, Nelson, Jenson, Woods, Laing, Simon, I believe next year we may be upgrading here, put an offseason of McKnight under a guy like Irving and it will work wonders.....



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    Re: 2012 Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by Al_4_State View Post
    We saw a lot of time from the guys who will be playing in the defensive backfield this year.

    Reeves, Broomfield, Washington have all played a ton, and I think we'll see a lot of Givens, Watson, Lynn and maybe Brackens next year. Wouldn't mind seeing us pick up a lock-down JUCO guy though.
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    Re: 2012 Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by mj4cy View Post
    Our linebackers will help us stop the run. What worries me is breaking in new corners.
    You mean corner, right? We only lose one.



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    Re: 2012 Defense

    We have Stokes, I'm pretty confident if Simon plays D1 its for ISU, and Everett is not coming to ISU.


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    Re: 2012 Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneCurt View Post
    I'm wondering if Wally Burnham's strategy is to give up a little against the run in order to better defend against the pass.
    Wally did that against Baylor and Mizzou...got it handed to him on the ground. Scrapped that idea and played straight up for the most part against OSU and let his defensive backs do their job.

    Of course, come to think of it OSU didnt bother to run that night. But had they it would have been into the teeth of a 7 man front and not 5 like Baylor/Mizzou.


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    Re: 2012 Defense

    We have a lot of solid talent in the ranks on defense. Our defense WILL be better in 2012 that it was this year, and i think it was pretty darn good this year.

    Defensive line will be better. McD has really played well down the stretch and we will get Maggitt back (I think rhoads believed Maggitt was going to be a solid player this year)

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    At defensive back, we lose 2 great DBs. We gain a year in experience. I think LJ learned a ton by being a 4 year starter. Hopefully he has taught the young guys well. I don't think we have anything to worry about in the defensive backfield.

    Top 5 defense in the big 12 next year. Count on it. Top 3 if our offense plays well.



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