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    F-250 question

    I am going to buying a F-250 for the pulling power when I get back from Korea in February and had a few questions that people on here might be able to answer:

    - Is there a gas mileage difference between a 5.4L V8 and a 6.0L V8?
    - Other than the max towing capacity of 9,400lbs (5.4L) and 10,000lbs (6.0L), are there any other differences?


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    Re: F-250 question

    Go with the 6L if you want to pull. Mileage will be a little lower but you want the power. Also look at the RPM's on the towing capacity sometimes they rate it at different RPMs no idea why there isn't a set standard. Good truck love mine. Go for FX4 or King Ranch need the decked out versions.



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    Re: F-250 question

    V10 and the 6 speed manual. That's what I bought for a puller.

    But I don't use it for running errands, either.


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    Re: F-250 question

    I assume the 6L is the powerstroke? You will get better mileage while pulling with the diesel. I drove an 04 F250, 6L diesel King Ranch Crew Cab for about 2 years and really liked it though I really didn't have anything to tow. Consider going with a bit newer model, as all of the payloads got a significant increase from 2004 to 2005 and beyond (my coworker has an 07 F150 and his truck was rated for the same payload as mine was). Keep in mind that more options reduces the overall payload too - auto transmissions, 4WD, interior goodies, etc all add weight that limits how much you can haul or pull.

    I averaged about 18 mpg in summer and 16.5 mpg in winter while driving 62 mph on two lane highways while unloaded. When I filled the bed with about 1500 lbs of gravel, sand, dirt etc I could hardly tell it was there from a performance standpoint and payed almost no mileage penalty. I am sold on diesel trucks and don't think I will ever own a truck that isn't a diesel. Unfortunatley I moved in February and my commute doubled to nearly 80 miles/day, so I was paying close to $400/month in fuel just driving to work. I traded for a 2011 Honda Civic for about the same payment but half the fuel cost per month. It was like getting a raise.


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    Re: F-250 question

    If you buy an mid 2000's diesel, DO NOT BUY A 6.0L! These engines usually have nothing but problems, aside from a very few who had good luck. If you are going for a mid 2000's diesel buy a 7.3L..more power and virtually no problems at all compared to the 6.0. If buy a diesel newer than 2008 (i believe? can't remember what year they released the new motors) it will either have a 6.4L or a 6.7L, both of which seem to be good motors. Have not known anybody to have problems with either of those.



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    Re: F-250 question

    I happen to run a Ford/Lincoln dealership. The F250 is one incredible truck to use. It's a worker and can handle about any load. You can expect 16 to 19mpg without load. The mpg will of course go down with a heavy load on. Expect 12 to 14mpg when running a "heavy" load.
    Thats the upside. The one downside of owning a 6.0L diesel is the cost of repairs. I can honestly say that the average repair on a 6.0 engine will run between $1000 and $3000 dollars. 6.0's are known for injector problems and FICM problems. A new FICM will run about $750.00 alone without labor to put it in.
    If you want to spend a little more money and get a sweet F150 try the new ones with the ECOBOOST engine. It will work like a 8 cylinder with the mpg of a 6 cylinder.



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    Re: F-250 question

    Quote Originally Posted by BTYamsac View Post
    I happen to run a Ford/Lincoln dealership. The F250 is one incredible truck to use. It's a worker and can handle about any load. You can expect 16 to 19mpg without load. The mpg will of course go down with a heavy load on. Expect 12 to 14mpg when running a "heavy" load.
    Thats the upside. The one downside of owning a 6.0L diesel is the cost of repairs. I can honestly say that the average repair on a 6.0 engine will run between $1000 and $3000 dollars. 6.0's are known for injector problems and FICM problems. A new FICM will run about $750.00 alone without labor to put it in.
    If you want to spend a little more money and get a sweet F150 try the new ones with the ECOBOOST engine. It will work like a 8 cylinder with the mpg of a 6 cylinder.
    Does the F150 with ECOBOOST have the towing capacity of the F250? I need the pulling power b/c I have a 8,000lbs boat and a toy hauler.

    Got any good deals for me when I get back from Korea since we are both Clones?!?!?



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    Re: F-250 question

    Quote Originally Posted by Tank View Post
    Does the F150 with ECOBOOST have the towing capacity of the F250? I need the pulling power b/c I have a 8,000lbs boat and a toy hauler.

    Got any good deals for me when I get back from Korea since we are both Clones?!?!?
    The F150 with EcoBoost will haul that boat anywhere you want. I would use it to haul about anything. When you get back from Korea, let me know. Everything is negotiable.



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    Re: F-250 question

    if you are concerned with mileage and power, just get a chip. you can have it programmed with custom tunes for your vehicle and then have different tunes for fuel economy and increased horsepower/torque.



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    Re: F-250 question

    Avoid 6.0 I get 13-14 mpg and dealership said that's what is average. Mine is gvw of 9900 lbs, very important to not hit 10k gvw. 10k is considered commercial and you have a mess if you tow anything, have to follow all comm. rules even if it isn't.

    Also do not chip a 6.0 for better mileage or power, will shell it almost instantly. Found all this out after purchase. Want best overall mileage and towing? Get a dodge with a cummins, best diesel company out there.



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    Re: F-250 question

    I own a 04' F350 with 6.0 diesel and I love it. I will caveat that by saying when I bought the truck I did a lot of research and knew that I was going to spend some money to make it a much better motor. It had some issues from the factory but if you are willing to spend some money you can make that motor nearly bulletproof and it will run of a LOT of miles. I found that the 6.0's were priced better than Dodge or Chevy because of some of the history. The new F150's are really nice but you are going to know that 8,000lbs boat is back there. I tow a 28' gooseneck trailer...I used to pull it with a half ton truck. It got the job done but really no comparison when I went to the diesel. I can't hardly tell its back there and the truck was meant to haul heavy weight (brakes, trans, etc.). The F150 will pull that stuff but it will be a lot harder on it. If you get more serious about buying a diesel let me know...I can share more specifics. I have read about and talked to a lot of people about them.

    Good luck...safe travels on your way home!



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    Re: F-250 question

    Quote Originally Posted by BCClone View Post
    Avoid 6.0 I get 13-14 mpg and dealership said that's what is average. Mine is gvw of 9900 lbs, very important to not hit 10k gvw. 10k is considered commercial and you have a mess if you tow anything, have to follow all comm. rules even if it isn't.

    Also do not chip a 6.0 for better mileage or power, will shell it almost instantly. Found all this out after purchase. Want best overall mileage and towing? Get a dodge with a cummins, best diesel company out there.
    Completely disagree with that...I get 18-21 with a F350. I have had a tuner on my truck for over 40,000 miles without a single issue. You have to have the right tuner (big difference between the good one and many bad ones). Now that people have figured out how to modify this motor it will sought after in the future much like the 7.3 is now. Its a great motor that can make a ton of power and be incredibly reliable with the right modification.

    I know tons of people that drive 3/4 or 1 ton trucks and pull crazy amounts of weight and not one of them has a commercial license. Just don't be an idiot and the DOT isn't going to bother you. They have much bigger fish to fry.



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    Re: F-250 question

    I have a 2011 f150 with the ecoboost and love it so far. I haven't towed much with it yet. It's averaging 17-18 mpg and will do around 22 with highway driving. but it only has a couple thousand miles and should hopefully get better



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    Re: F-250 question

    Quote Originally Posted by Covenant Clone View Post
    Completely disagree with that...I get 18-21 with a F350. I have had a tuner on my truck for over 40,000 miles without a single issue. You have to have the right tuner (big difference between the good one and many bad ones). Now that people have figured out how to modify this motor it will sought after in the future much like the 7.3 is now. Its a great motor that can make a ton of power and be incredibly reliable with the right modification.

    I know tons of people that drive 3/4 or 1 ton trucks and pull crazy amounts of weight and not one of them has a commercial license. Just don't be an idiot and the DOT isn't going to bother you. They have much bigger fish to fry.
    Buddy who is a DOT boy said they are now pulling over anything one ton and many of the 3/4 tons and finding money due to budget cuts. Don't need a CDL, but all inspections, log books, tie downs, etc must be followed. He says it's like shooting fish in a barrel and now with troopers and DOT merging, troopers can pull you over for this stuff.

    Need to clarify, when you are pulling something, not just driving.



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    Re: F-250 question

    Used to management a ford dealership, farm now, and my old friends at the ford dealerships said they are FAR from sought after. Telling me they have a nasty rap and deservedly so.



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