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    ISU/Iowa Predictions

    Post them here. I just typed mine up and didn't realize just how ugly this might get.

    125: McDonough by major (4-0)
    Finch doesn't have near enough to keep this to a decision. McDonough is that good.

    133: Ramos by major (8-0)
    We are overmatched here and Ramos has a ridiculous gas tank. Could be a match term.

    141: Marion by pin (14-0)
    Total mismatch.

    149: Ballweg or Carew by decision (17-0)
    We have a shot here. Should be a relatively close match.

    157: St. John by major (21-0)
    St. John is just too much.

    165: Evans by decision (24-0)
    Evans is one of the best wrestlers the rest of the country has yet to hear about. He pasted Ed Ruth twice in high school. He's a stud. Close match and one we can obviously win.

    174: Lofthouse by decision (27-0)
    Lofthouse is a go-er. Spangler will gas. This will be a better match later in the year, one we may win should we get Iowa at national duals.

    184: Gambrall by decision (30-0)
    Asking Gambrall to be ready and healthy is a lot to ask for. If he's not ready, Beard will win this match by decision over Wagner or Fahler. We have a shot at a major if Gambrall doesn't go.

    197: Shaffer by decision (30-3)
    Lira is built like a tank and could give the slightly undersized Shaffer some trouble but we should win this one.

    HWT: Telford by decision (33-3)
    Should be a good match and could go either way but Telford will open eyes this year.



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    Re: ISU/Iowa Predictions

    Ouch. that is all.



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    Re: ISU/Iowa Predictions

    Sorenson will win.



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    Re: ISU/Iowa Predictions

    Pain...



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    Re: ISU/Iowa Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by 1100011CS View Post
    Sorenson will win.
    I try to take off the homer hat when I make predicitions. My heart and even my head say Sorenson but my gut says Evans. I stepped out and picked the mild upset.

    Evans is a stud. Even if Sorenson wins on Sunday I think Evans will finish higher at the NCAAs.



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    Re: ISU/Iowa Predictions

    Gramball not a 100%, has only wrestled once at 197. I not betting against Beard. He has lots of heart as does Sorenson.

    I give us a shot at 149, 165, 174, 184, 197 and Hwt.
    Worried about the beating Cozart took today, but 149 is a weak spot for Iowa.
    Spangler will get better and better as he get more mat time from injury.



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    Re: ISU/Iowa Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by NEICyFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by 1100011CS View Post
    Sorenson will win.
    I try to take off the homer hat when I make predicitions. My heart and even my head say Sorenson but my gut says Evans. I stepped out and picked the mild upset. Evans is a stud. Even if Sorenson wins on Sunday I think Evans will finish higher at the NCAAs.
    Just my opinion(gut) too.



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    Re: ISU/Iowa Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by 1100011CS View Post
    Just my opinion(gut) too.
    Sorry--I didn't mean to sound like I was disrespecting it. I can certainly see a win there for the good guys.



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    Re: ISU/Iowa Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by NEICyFan View Post
    I try to take off the homer hat when I make predicitions. My heart and even my head say Sorenson but my gut says Evans. I stepped out and picked the mild upset.

    Evans is a stud. Even if Sorenson wins on Sunday I think Evans will finish higher at the NCAAs.
    Don't disagree with your logic and it seems most of the toss up matches have gone to iowa the last few years.



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    Re: ISU/Iowa Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by buf87 View Post
    Gramball not a 100%, has only wrestled once at 197. I not betting against Beard. He has lots of heart as does Sorenson.

    I give us a shot at 149, 165, 174, 184, 197 and Hwt.
    Worried about the beating Cozart took today, but 149 is a weak spot for Iowa.
    Spangler will get better and better as he get more mat time from injury.

    After not just tonight but this year so far Cozart is gonna get smoked because he has NO offense!! & Spangler better get his conditioning up because Iowa wrestlers rarely run out of gas!! I hope the Cyclones can gain some confidence from the crowd next Sunday cause it will suck to get blanked at home!!



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    Re: ISU/Iowa Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by NEICyFan View Post
    I try to take off the homer hat when I make predicitions. My heart and even my head say Sorenson but my gut says Evans. I stepped out and picked the mild upset.

    Evans is a stud. Even if Sorenson wins on Sunday I think Evans will finish higher at the NCAAs.

    Looking at your posting history, I am fairly certain this is a lie. Whenever there was a question, you most definitely went with your REAL favorite team.

    I think it is sad that people are so jaded about what is in reality a total rebuild of a program, and the reality that cael left nothing behind, that they played along with a hawk fan.

    As for the meet, iowa tech should absolutely dominate the score. I want to see our guys get healthy, continue to improve, and get ready for March.



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    Re: ISU/Iowa Predictions

    Wow, has ISU wrestling dropped off that much that we can't even compete. Maybe that is why Cael left he saw the writing on the wall.



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    Re: ISU/Iowa Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by bosco View Post
    Wow, has ISU wrestling dropped off that much that we can't even compete. Maybe that is why Cael left he saw the writing on the wall.
    Prepare to be blasted.



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    Re: ISU/Iowa Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by bosco View Post
    Wow, has ISU wrestling dropped off that much that we can't even compete. Maybe that is why Cael left he saw the writing on the wall.

    Wow....I take it that you don't follow wrestling then?


    Cael left because of MONEY, plain and simple. Add the fact that he is in the hotbed of amatuer wrestling, psu gave him a WRESTLING ONLY facility, and paid him more than any coach ever, and it is easy to see why he left.

    Plus in iowa you have to deal with that elephant in the room, the iowa techsters. At psu, you are far enough removed that you can create your own identity. While you would be compared to your conference mate, iowa tech, but your geographical distance is great enough that they don't cast that big of a shadow over what you are doing.

    Now, since it is OBVIOUS that you don't understand what really happened, let me break it down for you.

    When cael was Bobby Douglas lead assistant, he signed a great recruiting class (Fanthorpe, Gallick, etc. basically KJ's first team). Then he signed Reader, and some other good young wrestlers (David Taylor for one) that would have been outstanding here at Iowa State, and put us right in the mix.

    When cael took the psu job, he left the senior class, that had already redshirted, and couldn't transfer, and Reader stayed loyal. But he left NOTHING behind those kids, taking his recruiting class with him. The program was gutted, and empty behind that first group.

    KJ has had to start basically from scratch. He has brought in some very good wrestlers, and has more on the way. He also has to develop depth in the room, because there wasn't any when he got here. This all takes time.

    If we aren't competitive in 2013, then contenders in 2014, then this can be revisited. But the fact that the same people who were so willing to give mac the mediocre more time, and chewey more time, are now up in arms when the actual future of the program is bright, is totally the iowa state mindset that JP, BF, CPR, CJL, KJ, and Freddie, are working hard to try to change.

    So I would recommend that you actually understand what the situation is, before making silly blanket statements. You have let the op hawk fan win, good job.



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    Re: ISU/Iowa Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by 1100011CS View Post
    Prepare to be blasted.
    Ha! Thanks for the warning.

    Quote Originally Posted by mikem View Post
    Wow....I take it that you don't follow wrestling then?


    Cael left because of MONEY, plain and simple. Add the fact that he is in the hotbed of amatuer wrestling, psu gave him a WRESTLING ONLY facility, and paid him more than any coach ever, and it is easy to see why he left.

    Plus in iowa you have to deal with that elephant in the room, the iowa techsters. At psu, you are far enough removed that you can create your own identity. While you would be compared to your conference mate, iowa tech, but your geographical distance is great enough that they don't cast that big of a shadow over what you are doing.

    Now, since it is OBVIOUS that you don't understand what really happened, let me break it down for you.

    When cael was Bobby Douglas lead assistant, he signed a great recruiting class (Fanthorpe, Gallick, etc. basically KJ's first team). Then he signed Reader, and some other good young wrestlers (David Taylor for one) that would have been outstanding here at Iowa State, and put us right in the mix.

    When cael took the psu job, he left the senior class, that had already redshirted, and couldn't transfer, and Reader stayed loyal. But he left NOTHING behind those kids, taking his recruiting class with him. The program was gutted, and empty behind that first group.

    KJ has had to start basically from scratch. He has brought in some very good wrestlers, and has more on the way. He also has to develop depth in the room, because there wasn't any when he got here. This all takes time.

    If we aren't competitive in 2013, then contenders in 2014, then this can be revisited. But the fact that the same people who were so willing to give mac the mediocre more time, and chewey more time, are now up in arms when the actual future of the program is bright, is totally the iowa state mindset that JP, BF, CPR, CJL, KJ, and Freddie, are working hard to try to change.

    So I would recommend that you actually understand what the situation is, before making silly blanket statements. You have let the op hawk fan win, good job.
    I haven't followed the team as closely as I used to ever since Cael bailed. So I'm not as educated as I was on who we have and who is coming except in general that we have some good wrestlers coming in.

    The blanket statement was really an honest question made in exasperation mainly from the poor start and "disappointing" finishes from the previous 2 years. KJ's first year was suppose to be a "good" year but even though we finished relatively high it did not meet expectations and the following year it fell farther off.

    I asked about Cael because I felt it was all about the money too but thought maybe he knew what was coming down the road with recruits. I knew he "took" some wrestlers with him but didn't realize he left the cupboard as bare as he did.

    Thanks for the details. Consider me a little more filled in now on the wrestling situation.


    Last edited by bosco; 11-28-2011 at 02:56 AM.

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