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    Defense

    I'm sorry but our defense is absolutely terrible so far this year... It's almost like we don't even try. We gotta start picking it up on that end or it could be a long year. Good O tonight however



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    Re: Defense

    Pretty bad, I agree.



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    Re: Defense

    they all look like they do not feel like putting effort into games until they need to... Thies is something that must change through out the course of the season.




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    Re: Defense

    Royce played like garbage and still almost had a triple double. The effort on defense was not there.



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    Re: Defense

    they don't like defense but love jacking up 3's, can't stand that style of basketball we won't win to many games in the big 12 this year playing this way



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    Re: Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by 501Clone View Post
    I'm sorry but our defense is absolutely terrible so far this year... It's almost like we don't even try. We gotta start picking it up on that end or it could be a long year. Good O tonight however
    I agree that our defense is very concerning right now. I'm trying to take a 'half-full' optimistic point of view because there's a huge amount of potential for this team to improve, especially since defense is more about effort than anything else. Believe me, the mayor will be focusing on defense big time.



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    Re: Defense

    Future opponents have to be licking their chops watching tape. I hope they wake up before Friday.



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    Re: Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by GoSTATE71 View Post
    they don't like defense but love jacking up 3's, can't stand that style of basketball we won't win to many games in the big 12 this year playing this way
    We will win games at home and lose them on the road. This team looks like a Johnny Orr team



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    Re: Defense

    Honestly I think we have the ability on defense, the problem is just effort. Look at Booker and White's blocks tonight. They have the talent and athleticism. Fred needs to get them fired up, but to be fair Hilton isn't the most lively place and it is hard to get up for opponents like Northern Colorado.

    I fully expect this team to play up to competition like Michigan, Kansas, Baylor, ect. They will be full effort in those games. Ideally you want your team to be all out hustle all the time, but unfortunately that doesn't look like it is happening at the moment.



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    Re: Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhoadhoused View Post
    Honestly I think we have the ability on defense, the problem is just effort. Look at Booker and White's blocks tonight. They have the talent and athleticism. Fred needs to get them fired up, but to be fair Hilton isn't the most lively place and it is hard to get up for opponents like Northern Colorado.

    I fully expect this team to play up to competition like Michigan, Kansas, Baylor, ect. They will be full effort in those games. Ideally you want your team to be all out hustle all the time, but unfortunately that doesn't look like it is happening at the moment.
    That does look like who we are. When we want to, we play defense and we hustle all over.

    I think this schedule really keeps us from seeing who we can be, because the guys know that they are more talented than these opponents. Instead of using that as a motivation to stomp these guys, they very clearly go 50-75% most of the game.

    I was hoping that showing up at Drake like that was a wake-up call. It looks like we learned part of the lesson, but not all of it.


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    Re: Defense

    I am not too worried yet, just too early, seen too many teams look 100% different in February than they do in November and this one will as well.

    But the defensive issues are alarming. Especially if you look at last year. We couldn't stop a junior high team and we are starting off that way again. I wanted to blame it on people playing out of position and just being generally awful last year with a only 7 guys. But now we are struggling to matchup again this year and the effort is just alarming. We let guys get baseline like it's our job, apparently the concept of help defense is totally lost, we don't see the ball, we are giving up layups, don't pick up the ball, hell there are times we don't know who we are guarding. And good lord our rotations are just not even existent. This is high school defense 101 stuff and we are not even close to executing anything defensively, just like last year.

    I would much rather be behind offensively this time of year than defensively. Royce is a freshmen, he is going to struggle defensively this year. Scottie is never going to be a lock down type guy. Booker just looks bad defensively right now and lost. Tyrus is a juco guy, it's going to take him time. So we have a lot of guys seeing a lot of minutes that aren't very good defenders right now. Royce and Tyrus should get much better. But Chris Allen, Babb, and Melvin need to be picking it up right now on the defensive end.

    Freddy said on the post game he thought offensively we were fine. Which makes me nervous as hell. We are not going to get a lot of those looks in conference and most night on the road we won't make 15 threes.

    You can't just give up 80 points all the time and expect to win. It just is not going to happen, and we are about to get a real nice *** kicking pretty soon if they don't figure it out. Defensive effort, focus and intensity just have to get much better. This is not even in the realm of good enough.



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    Re: Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhoadhoused View Post
    Honestly I think we have the ability on defense, the problem is just effort. Look at Booker and White's blocks tonight. They have the talent and athleticism. Fred needs to get them fired up, but to be fair Hilton isn't the most lively place and it is hard to get up for opponents like Northern Colorado.

    I fully expect this team to play up to competition like Michigan, Kansas, Baylor, ect. They will be full effort in those games. Ideally you want your team to be all out hustle all the time, but unfortunately that doesn't look like it is happening at the moment.
    This never ends well for teams. You have to be extremely talented to pull that type of thing off. I'm talking McD's AA's all over the place to go out there with that type of mentality and expect to finish anywhere north of .500 in conference play.

    If this is our mentality, given the fact that we have no PG and a lack of depth in the paint, it's going to be a long year.



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    Re: Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by cyatheart View Post
    Freddy said on the post game he thought offensively we were fine. Which makes me nervous as hell. We are not going to get a lot of those looks in conference and most night on the road we won't make 15 threes.

    You can't just give up 80 points all the time and expect to win. It just is not going to happen, and we are about to get a real nice *** kicking pretty soon if they don't figure it out. Defensive effort, focus and intensity just have to get much better. This is not even in the realm of good enough.
    Sure we won't make that many 3 point buckets but I think Freddy figures if we get more stops than we can get easier buckets in transition which means we won't have to rely on that many 3 point shots



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    Re: Defense

    I think to win games this has to become a very good defensive team, which is even scarier the more I think of it. Going to be a lot of nights where stuff isn't falling if we are going to jack 3's like that. Teams just aren't going to allow us to do that.



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    Re: Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by cyatheart View Post

    Freddy said on the post game he thought offensively we were fine. Which makes me nervous as hell. We are not going to get a lot of those looks in conference and most night on the road we won't make 15 threes.
    He said the exact same thing last year after a number of games. I too am very concerned. I'm watching Missouri again tonight against UCLA. You couldn't find two more polar opposite defensive efforts than us compared to MU.



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