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    Iowa/ISU rematch

    I said back in September that ISU was clearly the better team the day they played the Hawks. I also said I wouldn't be shocked if they ended up being the better team at the end of the year, but that I'd have to wait and see whose body of work was better.

    Iowa is better now than they were in September. And if they played the ISU lineup they faced in JTS tomorrow, I think the Hawks would win.

    But I also think ISU is better with Barnett in the lineup than they are/were with Jantz. Maybe the Hawks still win, because of Shontrelle being out. But I think I'm ready to fully admit that ISU is the better team this year. Not just on Sept. 10. In 2011.


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    Re: Iowa/ISU rematch

    That had to hurt



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    Re: Iowa/ISU rematch

    Obviously biased, but ISU is by no means the same team it was just 4 or 5 weeks ago. I really hope ISU and Iowa square off in the Insight Bowl just so we can truly see how much better ISU has gotten.



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    Re: Iowa/ISU rematch

    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    That had to hurt
    It sucks that Iowa isn't better, but it's hardly gut-wrenching. I love seeing ISU succeed, too.


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    Re: Iowa/ISU rematch

    Quote Originally Posted by tm3308 View Post
    I said back in September that ISU was clearly the better team the day they played the Hawks. I also said I wouldn't be shocked if they ended up being the better team at the end of the year, but that I'd have to wait and see whose body of work was better.

    Iowa is better now than they were in September. And if they played the ISU lineup they faced in JTS tomorrow, I think the Hawks would win.

    But I also think ISU is better with Barnett in the lineup than they are/were with Jantz. Maybe the Hawks still win, because of Shontrelle being out. But I think I'm ready to fully admit that ISU is the better team this year. Not just on Sept. 10. In 2011.
    I'm impressed that you managed to win a single road game this year. Good work, but we beat you 7 out of 10 times in Jack Trice. You probably do the same at Kinnick.



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    Re: Iowa/ISU rematch

    Quote Originally Posted by Stewo View Post
    Obviously biased, but ISU is by no means the same team it was just 4 or 5 weeks ago. I really hope ISU and Iowa square off in the Insight Bowl just so we can truly see how much better ISU has gotten.
    I'd love to see a rematch, but I don't think it's going to happen, unfortunately. But ISU is definitely not the same team they were a month ago. Barnett could really be something special by the time he's done.


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    Re: Iowa/ISU rematch

    Are you really a Hawk fan?

    You have way too much common sense and are way too level headed.



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    Re: Iowa/ISU rematch

    Are... are you ok? Did you just have stroke or something?

    Kidding aside, I think you're right. Iowa is a far more talented team than they've played like this year, and easily more talented than ISU. Iowa has played much better as of late, but I still think Iowa State is a better team. Just as inconsistant, but more solid as a team, despite the lack of talent.

    It is worth noting that although Iowa State has a better team this year, they are not the better program, yet.



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    Re: Iowa/ISU rematch

    Quote Originally Posted by tm3308 View Post
    I'd love to see a rematch, but I don't think it's going to happen, unfortunately. But ISU is definitely not the same team they were a month ago. Barnett could really be something special by the time he's done.
    JB was recruited by this staff to play QB. It's night and day between him and the QB's that have come before him. JB knows how to win and he's a true leader on the field. The best part? He still has 3 years left.



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    Re: Iowa/ISU rematch

    Iowa really hasn't done ANYTHING to impress me this year. The Big 10 has nowhere near the quality of teams the Big 12 does.


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    Re: Iowa/ISU rematch

    Quote Originally Posted by kas4cy View Post
    Are... are you ok? Did you just have stroke or something?

    Kidding aside, I think you're right. Iowa is a far more talented team than they've played like this year, and easily more talented than ISU. Iowa has played much better as of late, but I still think Iowa State is a better team. Just as inconsistant, but more solid as a team, despite the lack of talent.

    It is worth noting that although Iowa State has a better team this year, they are not the better program, yet.
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    Re: Iowa/ISU rematch

    Quote Originally Posted by ty4cy90 View Post
    Iowa really hasn't done ANYTHING to impress me this year. The Big 10 has nowhere near the quality of teams the Big 12 does.
    The win against Michigan was good. They're clearly a better team at home, and Michigan only decided to play 1 half of football, but it was a good win nonetheless.



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    Re: Iowa/ISU rematch

    Quote Originally Posted by kas4cy View Post
    Are... are you ok? Did you just have stroke or something?

    Kidding aside, I think you're right. Iowa is a far more talented team than they've played like this year, and easily more talented than ISU. Iowa has played much better as of late, but I still think Iowa State is a better team. Just as inconsistant, but more solid as a team, despite the lack of talent.

    It is worth noting that although Iowa State has a better team this year, they are not the better program, yet.
    That battle is going to take MUCH longer to win, unless Iowa just falls off the map. That's just what happens when ISU has a long stretch of (overall) pathetic-ness while Iowa is going to January bowl games. Iowa has a big head start thanks to the past 30 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stewo View Post
    JB was recruited by this staff to play QB. It's night and day between him and the QB's that have come before him. JB knows how to win and he's a true leader on the field. The best part? He still has 3 years left.
    And this is the part that scares me for the next year or two. Especially that last sentence.


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    Re: Iowa/ISU rematch

    Iowa's defense is still pretty slow and generally bad IMO. They played a great game against Michigan. Outside of that I haven't been impressed at all.

    I would rather see a Bama v LSU rematch than a CyHawk rematch.



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    Re: Iowa/ISU rematch

    Quote Originally Posted by tm3308 View Post
    That battle is going to take MUCH longer to win, unless Iowa just falls off the map. That's just what happens when ISU has a long stretch of (overall) pathetic-ness while Iowa is going to January bowl games. Iowa has a big head start thanks to the past 30 years.
    And that's what the "yet" is there for. We (Iowa State fans) all hope that it's going that way. You're also right that it would take Iowa falling to mediocrity for quite a few years for that to happen.

    Also, can you and your hawkeye brethren stop saying "January bowl games" like it means it's automatically better than a December bowl game? The effect is moot when 6 of the 8 bowl tie-ins happen to be in January. If you want to say BCS or "top tier" when talking about the Outback or Capital One, that's fine. But if practically all the games are in January, it's seems silly to make it a bragging point. Not on topic I know, just a minor annoyance.



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