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    So if Nazareth Long is here at semester..

    does he start at the one? I hope the answer is no, that we find something before then, but no on on the team showed ay kind of ability at the point last night. I hope Long has some, but knowing how the last PG Fred recruited looked(McGee), Long could just be another SG who was told he was going to play the 1.



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    Re: So if Nazareth Long if here at semester..

    Quote Originally Posted by brett108 View Post
    does he start at the one? I hope the answer is no, that we find something before then, but no on on the team showed ay kind of ability at the point last night. I hope Long has some, but knowing how the last PG Fred recruited looked(McGee), Long could just be another SG who was told he was going to play the 1.
    Why this obsession with the PG position? PG play didn't lose ISU the game last night. It isn't like ISU has trouble getting the ball up the floor either.

    If ISU has problems on offense they are spacing, moving without the ball, and chucking 3 pointers after one pass without even looking to feed the post or get something off dribble penetration.



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    Re: So if Nazareth Long if here at semester..

    Quote Originally Posted by MartyFine View Post
    Why this obsession with the PG position? PG play didn't lose ISU the game last night. It isn't like ISU has trouble getting the ball up the floor either.

    If ISU has problems on offense they are spacing, moving without the ball, and chucking 3 pointers after one pass without even looking to feed the post or get something off dribble penetration.
    totally agree. the obsession with PG play is really getting crazy. Yeah we don't have a true PG but that is not the reason they lost the game. As you said, bad shot selection, poor spacing, bad defense, Drake played with passion and ISU did not, too many missed shots near the basket.


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    Re: So if Nazareth Long if here at semester..

    Quote Originally Posted by brett108 View Post
    does he start at the one? I hope the answer is no, that we find something before then, but no on on the team showed ay kind of ability at the point last night. I hope Long has some, but knowing how the last PG Fred recruited looked(McGee), Long could just be another SG who was told he was going to play the 1.
    McGee wasn't a true PG. Long is. Will he start? No, IMO.



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    Re: So if Nazareth Long if here at semester..

    Hopefully Long won't play until next year simply because I would like him for four years, not 3.5

    Last night, Drake passed, passed, passed, passed, and passed until they found an open man. Iowa State passed then shot. It had nothing to do with PG play, it was all because we weren't making plays.



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    Re: So if Nazareth Long if here at semester..

    Quote Originally Posted by MartyFine View Post
    Why this obsession with the PG position? PG play didn't lose ISU the game last night. It isn't like ISU has trouble getting the ball up the floor either.

    If ISU has problems on offense they are spacing, moving without the ball, and chucking 3 pointers after one pass without even looking to feed the post or get something off dribble penetration.
    Do not kid yourself. The whole offense was a shambles. SC was able to penetrate the lane once. Royce was stuffed in the lane the last five minutes as he was figured out. No one else chose to drive the lane. We were the laneless wonders last night. We just sat outside waiting to pump up threes. This offense looked like the old time McD offense where nothing happened until someone had to jack the ball up over a defender. Last year we rushed down court and drove the lane with ease.

    That is why the fans are nervous about what we have seen the last three games. We are reverting to sloooow, no-plan offense just like we watched for so many years.

    The defense will be much easier to fix with team desire and inside help than this offense will be to fix.


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    Re: So if Nazareth Long if here at semester..

    there is absolutely no reason to think Long will be any more ready than Sledge is.



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    Re: So if Nazareth Long if here at semester..

    Quote Originally Posted by Wesley View Post
    Do not kid yourself. The whole offense was a shambles. SC was able to penetrate the lane once. Royce was stuffed in the lane the last five minutes as he was figured out. No one else chose to drive the lane. We were the laneless wonders last night. We just sat outside waiting to pump up threes. This offense looked like the old time McD offense where nothing happened until someone had to jack the ball up over a defender. Last year we rushed down court and drove the lane with ease.

    That is why the fans are nervous about what we have seen the last three games. We are reverting to sloooow, no-plan offense just like we watched for so many years.

    The defense will be much easier to fix with team desire and inside help than this offense will be to fix.
    bubu drove and was called for the charge. ejim drove and didn't finish, he thought he was fouled. mcgee drove and missed a wide open lay up. chris allen drove several times, making a few, getting fouled, and wildly getting caught in the air at least once. royce drove and was called for charges and had a few dunks. babb drove and got fouled.



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    Re: So if Nazareth Long if here at semester..

    I think Long will come in and play about 40 minutes a game, average about 10 pts and 12 assists a game so it will be nice when it gets here.


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    Re: So if Nazareth Long if here at semester..

    Quote Originally Posted by bawbie View Post
    there is absolutely no reason to think Long will be any more ready than Sledge is.
    Half a foot taller. If he can handle the ball and play D, he'll see time.



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    Re: So if Nazareth Long is here at semester..

    Quote Originally Posted by brett108 View Post
    does he start at the one? I hope the answer is no, that we find something before then, but no on on the team showed ay kind of ability at the point last night. I hope Long has some, but knowing how the last PG Fred recruited looked(McGee), Long could just be another SG who was told he was going to play the 1.
    The truth is no one can say with any certainty how good Long is, what our needs will be when he gets here, or how well the team is playing at that time.

    If he is good enough to get minutes and the team needs him to be better, I expect he will play. His size and the numbers he is putting up so far this season certainly raise one's hopes. But, he will be a frosh and those numbers are vs. Canadian teams.


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    Re: So if Nazareth Long if here at semester..

    Quote Originally Posted by Rural View Post
    Half a foot taller. If he can handle the ball and play D, he'll see time.
    I also don't think there is any evidence that height is the only reason Sledge isn't playing.



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    Re: So if Nazareth Long if here at semester..

    Quote Originally Posted by MartyFine View Post
    Why this obsession with the PG position? PG play didn't lose ISU the game last night. It isn't like ISU has trouble getting the ball up the floor either.

    If ISU has problems on offense they are spacing, moving without the ball, and chucking 3 pointers after one pass without even looking to feed the post or get something off dribble penetration.
    Everyone of those problems you just listed can all be attributed to poor PG play. PG's do a whole lot more than just dribble the ball up the court.



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    Re: So if Nazareth Long if here at semester..

    Quote Originally Posted by bawbie View Post
    there is absolutely no reason to think Long will be any more ready than Sledge is.
    This!


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