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    Is there any possibility that Sandusky is innocent?

    Sandusky says he's not a pedo/child molester/child rapist. What's the chance that he's telling the truth?

    I don't buy it, but it got me wondering, especially with the Duke Lacrosse rape fiasco.

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    Edited to add a later post of mine to this initial post:
    I think people are under the impression that I actually believe his innocence. I said that I didn't buy it in my initial post. I just wanted to play devil's advocate (literally) and see if anyone bought what he said. I should have been more clear.

    I brought up the Duke Lacrosse incident because there was a grand jury report that raked the boys over the fire, and they were innocent. That's the only comparison that I could think of.

    We're supposed to be a culture of innocent until proven guilty. I don't believe his innocence, but I wanted to hear others' opinions.


    Last edited by DoOrDie; 11-15-2011 at 12:17 PM.

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    Re: Is there any possibility that Sandusky is innocent?

    Then there are 9 former victims that are lying. Not to mention numerous eye witness's lying about what they saw.



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    Re: Is there any possibility that Sandusky is innocent?

    No I don't think there is.



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    Re: Is there any possibility that Sandusky is innocent?

    No chance in Hell...this guy is a pedophile.



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    Re: Is there any possibility that Sandusky is innocent?

    If nothing truly happened, then there was nothing for Joe Paterno to report, and then things get really interesting for those that were wrongly terminated from their positions of employment.




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    Re: Is there any possibility that Sandusky is innocent?

    Yeah, 9 witnesses is a bit much, and I think he's repulsive. I've been trying to forget what I read in the grand jury report.



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    Re: Is there any possibility that Sandusky is innocent?

    - Im not a spin my wheels type of guy." - Coach Paul Rhoads

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    Re: Is there any possibility that Sandusky is innocent?

    Quote Originally Posted by RING4CY View Post
    If nothing truly happened, then there was nothing for Joe Paterno to report, and then things get really interesting for those that were wrongly terminated from their positions of employment.
    Even if somehow this didn't happen, the school was right in termination. There was a cover-up which prevented an official investigation into the incident. That cover-up is why these people lost their jobs, not their relationship with Sandusky.



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    Re: Is there any possibility that Sandusky is innocent?

    Quote Originally Posted by Clonehomer View Post
    Even if somehow this didn't happen, the school was right in termination. There was a cover-up which prevented an official investigation into the incident. That cover-up is why these people lost their jobs, not their relationship with Sandusky.
    If nothing happened, then there was nothing to cover up.

    In no way do I think he is innocent or that nothing happened. I think the guy is guilty as ****.




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    Re: Is there any possibility that Sandusky is innocent?

    I was fully prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt and a fair presumption of innocence for the time being. Then I watched the Bob Costas interview tonight.

    He is guilty.

    The man is broken. He knows he has committed horrible wrongs and he isn't strong enough to face that head on. He is cowering beneath a tower of lies because he hopes to be able to eventually convince himself that what he did never happened.

    It is a sad, pathetic sight to see.


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    Re: Is there any possibility that Sandusky is innocent?

    Do you really believe he just showered with kids and only touched their legs? Why would you horse around with naked kids in a shower?


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    Re: Is there any possibility that Sandusky is innocent?

    Quote Originally Posted by DoOrDie View Post
    Sandusky says he's not a pedo/child molester/child rapist. What's the chance that he's telling the truth?

    I don't buy it, but it got me wondering, especially with the Duke Lacrosse rape fiasco.

    My question to you -- how in the heck do you compare the two??? Please lay out one or two similarities that would make a reasonable person in any way equate the two?

    I think we can rule out prostitute being involved in the Penn State case.


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    Re: Is there any possibility that Sandusky is innocent?

    theres also a big difference between "the kid sliding in the shower" as sandusky claims, and mcreary(sp?) claiming he had the boy pinned against the shower raping him. yeah. i dont think you mistake those.
    this many people dont accuse him of doing what hes done if there is no truth behind it. and the bob costas interview did nothing in my opinion to sway anyones opinion away from guilty.
    at one point the attorney even said "weve spoken to the 8th victim and he has said that the report is incorrect." costas goes on to say that "the report says that victim #8 has not been identified, you know who it is now?" the attorney responds by saying "we think we know." solid man. solid.
    sandusky is a monster, and i cannot believe that they let him out on bail. especially with his house being so close to school..
    vent done.



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    Re: Is there any possibility that Sandusky is innocent?

    Quote Originally Posted by RING4CY View Post
    If nothing happened, then there was nothing to cover up.

    In no way do I think he is innocent or that nothing happened. I think the guy is guilty as ****.
    Wrong. Paterno, the AD, the president, etc. were told that child abuse had occurred and failed to report this information to the proper authorities. The coverup is independent of whether or not an actual crime occurred. If I, as a future physician and mandatory reporter, failed to report suspected child abuse, I could still be in a world of hurt even if it turned out no abuse had taken place.



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    Re: Is there any possibility that Sandusky is innocent?

    Yea, there is no way he is innocent. I know they say innocent until proven guilty, but the public has already decided for themselves and rightly so I believe.



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