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    If OSU wins BCS, do they become a national powerhouse?

    Let's be honest the OSU has had good teams within the last 3 years but before that they were mostly a middle sometimes mediocre team in the Big 12, so if they win the BCS Title, do they become a national powerhouse like their bigger brother OU and Texas and USC and Ohio Stae?



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    Re: If OSU wins BCS, do they become a national powerhouse?

    As long as they have Mike Gundy I say yes. He has been a perfect fit for that program.



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    Re: If OSU wins BCS, do they become a national powerhouse?

    Any team with T. Boone money is a national power house in my eyes. It's true, money can buy anything, including national championships.


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    Re: If OSU wins BCS, do they become a national powerhouse?

    Yes, and Boone Pickens has made sure of it.

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    Re: If OSU wins BCS, do they become a national powerhouse?

    Nope. They are still the second choice in their own state. They will have to find that lighting in a bottle with under the radar recruits every year. They found Blackmon and Weeden, and are getting some good recruits, like Herschel Sims, to come along, but they are not recruiting at the level of an OU or UT. The good thing for them is I believe OSU has the better staff, and that makes a world of difference. I think OU gets thumped this year.



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    Re: If OSU wins BCS, do they become a national powerhouse?

    Quote Originally Posted by whirlybirds View Post
    Any team with T. Boone money is a national power house in my eyes. It's true, money can buy anything, including national championships.
    See: Cam Newton


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    I agree. We didn't choose Iowa State because it is easy. We chose Iowa State because it is awesome.
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    So frickin jealous of what they have in Ames. It's truly amazing what Fred has done coming in with 0 coaching experience.

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    Re:If OSU wins BCS, do they become a national powerhouse?

    Nope, it took those teams years and years to become national powerhouses. I'm just convinced that Mike Gundy is an excellent coach with a huge, lucky break in Weedon. OSU is at their peak and I don't think they'll stay this high for long.



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    Re: If OSU wins BCS, do they become a national powerhouse?

    Quote Originally Posted by CloneFan4 View Post
    Nope, it took those teams years and years to become national powerhouses. I'm just convinced that Mike Gundy is an excellent coach with a huge, lucky break in Weedon. OSU is at their peak and I don't think they'll stay this high for long.
    This depends on how well JD Walsh comes along. That kid looked phenomenal in HS and 7 on 7. He could step right in and deliver, but we will have to see.



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    Re:If OSU wins BCS, do they become a national powerhouse?

    No doubt OSU will be good under Gundy but I just don't see them being a consistent 10 W team. Walsh does look to be a stud too.



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    Re: If OSU wins BCS, do they become a national powerhouse?

    Gundy and OSU remind me a lot of when another OSU (Mike Riley and Oregon State) rolling a few years ago. They play in similar sized stadiums, have similar young coaches, and are usually second fiddle to the other school in the state.
    5,6 win teams eventually became 8,9,10 win teams.
    Oregon State is falling back down to earth a little, and I think Okie State will after the QB and WR are done. I don't think they'll be bad, just not at this level.



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    Re: If OSU wins BCS, do they become a national powerhouse?

    With their money, (TBoone) and Gundy at the helm for them coaching, I see them as a big powerhouse in conference for sure.

    If they win out and go to the title game and win, you better believe that will make a huge impact on recruiting for them for years to come.



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    Re: If OSU wins BCS, do they become a national powerhouse?

    On the same level as USC, OU, or tOSU? I don't think so. Those schools have decades of tradition backing up their status as elite programs. Money can buy you a lot of things (see also: Oregon), but tradition is a hard thing to overcome. But I think oSu could establish themselves in the second "tier" of programs, close behind the traditional elites.

    I think Gundy is obviously a very good coach, but I remain to be convinced that he's a great coach. Beat us, and then beat OU and I'll believe. But I expect them to lose to OU yet again this year. Hard to be a "powerhouse" when your best team ever can't beat your in-state rival on your home field. If I'm wrong and they win, and can keep Gundy around, then they will be very good for a long time to come. If I'm right about Gundy, this is probably their peak, and we'll see them slip back down a bit (they should still be pretty good though).



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    Re: If OSU wins BCS, do they become a national powerhouse?

    Quote Originally Posted by gwoodclone View Post
    On the same level as USC, OU, or tOSU? I don't think so. Those schools have decades of tradition backing up their status as elite programs. Money can buy you a lot of things (see also: Oregon), but tradition is a hard thing to overcome. But I think oSu could establish themselves in the second "tier" of programs, close behind the traditional elites.

    I think Gundy is obviously a very good coach, but I remain to be convinced that he's a great coach. Beat us, and then beat OU and I'll believe. But I expect them to lose to OU yet again this year. Hard to be a "powerhouse" when your best team ever can't beat your in-state rival on your home field. If I'm wrong and they win, and can keep Gundy around, then they will be very good for a long time to come. If I'm right about Gundy, this is probably their peak, and we'll see them slip back down a bit (they should still be pretty good though).
    Hell, T. Boone is 83, what happens when his money stops flowing?



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    Re: If OSU wins BCS, do they become a national powerhouse?

    Quote Originally Posted by alarson View Post
    Hell, T. Boone is 83, what happens when his money stops flowing?
    I'm sure there is a pretty good size gift for OSU in his will


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    Re: If OSU wins BCS, do they become a national powerhouse?

    Quote Originally Posted by CysRage View Post
    I'm sure there is a pretty good size gift for OSU in his will
    Even with T. Boone's financial woes over the last 10 years I have read something of the endowment approaching $500 M. Even at 1% that is $5 M per year FOREVER without ever touching the principle or other funds designated for immediate use.

    Kind of a morbid thought but want to support ISU long after you have left this Earth? Buy an insurance policy for a couple hundred K and name ISU as a 50% benefactor. At some point, your $22.50 a month will mean 100's of thousands towards ISU. Problem is, you will be dead.

    Do it.... for the children!


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