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    Selective interpretation of "irrefutable evidence" again

    Seemed pretty clear Barnett stretched to the 34 yard line and it was ruled as such on the field. Either way, there was not a SINGLE replay you could see where his knee touched down. Complete and total guess on the part of the replay official yet again. We ended up getting the first down on the next play but this has GOT to stop.



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    Re: Selective interpretation of "irrefutable evidence" again

    I thought you could tell his knee was down and the ball just past the 35. We've had a lot of terrible replay decisions go against us, but don't think that was one. The stupid thing was calling a timeout after that play and giving Kansas a chance to challenge. As soon as that happened I knew we were going to get screwed.



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    Re: Selective interpretation of "irrefutable evidence" again

    I was one of about 10 posters who said the same thing ....



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    Re: Selective interpretation of "irrefutable evidence" again

    Quote Originally Posted by cc4td28 View Post
    I thought you could tell his knee was down and the ball just past the 35. We've had a lot of terrible replay decisions go against us, but don't think that was one. The stupid thing was calling a timeout after that play and giving Kansas a chance to challenge. As soon as that happened I knew we were going to get screwed.
    I could GUESS that his knee was down, but was it irrefutable? Far from it, IMO. Maybe the ref had an HD monitor though, I felt like I was watching a VHS tape.



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    Re: Selective interpretation of "irrefutable evidence" again

    Quote Originally Posted by atlantacyclone View Post
    I was one of about 10 posters who said the same thing ....
    Oh my bad, I didn't read the whole game thread.



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    Re: Selective interpretation of "irrefutable evidence" again

    His knee was clearly down and the ball was only at the 35. I was watching the streaming and wasn't very clear and I could tell it was the right call.


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    Re: Selective interpretation of "irrefutable evidence" again

    Thought the knee was down well before the 1st down marker...even with the VHS footage. But the spot just in front of the 35 was way off...so we got screwed there. I'll blame it on the reviewer's bifocals and the standard def.



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    Re: Selective interpretation of "irrefutable evidence" again

    Quote Originally Posted by ruxCYtable View Post
    but this has GOT to stop.
    Or what?

    Seemed pretty clear his knee was down to me.

    Michigan on the other hand got jobbed.



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    Re: Selective interpretation of "irrefutable evidence" again

    The people around me thought it was pretty clear on the jumbotron that his knee was down. My only real complaint is why did it take 15 minutes to decide. My only question with officiating is how do you not call a horse collar that happened to JB when if happened right in front of the umpire. Other than that no real conspiracy theory complaints.


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    Re: Selective interpretation of "irrefutable evidence" again

    His knee was down. It was only unclear if you weren't looking.



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    Re: Selective interpretation of "irrefutable evidence" again

    Quote Originally Posted by fatkid1974 View Post
    The people around me thought it was pretty clear on the jumbotron that his knee was down. My only real complaint is why did it take 15 minutes to decide. My only question with officiating is how do you not call a horse collar that happened to JB when if happened right in front of the umpire. Other than that no real conspiracy theory complaints.
    According to the guys on the tv broadcast, a horsecollar can not occur within the pocket. I don't agree with that, but I hope they know more about the rules than I do.


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    Re: Selective interpretation of "irrefutable evidence" again

    Quote Originally Posted by tube1 View Post
    According to the guys on the tv broadcast, a horsecollar can not occur within the pocket. I don't agree with that, but I hope they know more about the rules than I do.
    They're correct on that. The horsecollar can only be called if the tackle occurs outside of the tackle box.



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    Re: Selective interpretation of "irrefutable evidence" again

    That was not a bad overrule. I wasn't ****** about that. But as someone before said, Michigan should be furious. It was very obviously a catch and they still said it wasn't. Not that it was guaranteed Michigan would get a 2 pt conversion to tie, but that was most certainly a touchdown.



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    Re: Selective interpretation of "irrefutable evidence" again

    I'm not sure he made it, but i agree with the OP that there really wasn't enough there to overturn the call on the field. It was just too hard to see if his knee was down or not, the call on the field should have been left. I thought when it happened that he would be about a yard short and I found myself double guessing after I saw the replay. I think he was short, but I would never overturn the call on the field based on what was seen.



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    Re: Selective interpretation of "irrefutable evidence" again

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrods79 View Post
    Thought the knee was down well before the 1st down marker...even with the VHS footage. But the spot just in front of the 35 was way off...so we got screwed there. I'll blame it on the reviewer's bifocals and the standard def.
    VHS? So you finally upgraded from that reel to reel?



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