Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 49
  1. #1
    Bench Warmer
    Points: 16,280, Level: 38
    Level completed: 79%, Points required for next Level: 170
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    10000 Experience PointsVeteran
    TheAdmiral's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Fridley, MN
    Posts
    275
    Points
    16,280
    Level
    38
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Non-Conference Schedule

    What do we think of the Non-Con schedule? To me it looks pretty weak, besides Michigan and maybe U of I and UNI. Is there any reason why we don't try and strengthen it? I understand that you want to win the non-cons but won't the NCAA take that into account if we end up being a bubble team?


    Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.

  2. #2
    Addict
    Points: 164,810, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 6.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points
    Stewo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Ankeny
    Posts
    6,973
    Points
    164,810
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 191
    Given: 50

    Re: Non-Conference Schedule

    We may all be greatful that we have a weak non-con.



  3. #3
    Hall-Of-Famer
    Points: 105,677, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 22.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    oldman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Posts
    4,252
    Points
    105,677
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 185
    Given: 489

    Re: Non-Conference Schedule

    I think, with our conference schedule, we'll need a weak non-con just to be on the bubble.


    "Just remember, what you choose to do with each day is very important because you are exchanging a day of your life for it" -ET

    "I'm trying not to sweat the small stuff in my life, but there is a definite learning curve." -CE

  4. #4
    Hall-Of-Famer
    Points: 43,105, Level: 64
    Level completed: 12%, Points required for next Level: 1,145
    Overall activity: 6.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran25000 Experience Points
    heitclone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Malvern, IA
    Posts
    4,499
    Points
    43,105
    Level
    64
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 70
    Given: 181

    Re: Non-Conference Schedule

    Quote Originally Posted by Stewo View Post
    We may all be greatful that we have a weak non-con.
    Signed
    this years football schedule....

    Seriously though I'm fine with this years schedule. I don't think its that far off of what most teams do. The only exceptions are the programs with a good enough track record that they get invited to high profile preseason tourney's or made for TV match ups. Until we get in on that kind of stuff I'm content with as many winable games as possible prior to big 12 play. We get plenty of chances for marquee wins every week in the big 12 and thats when the commitees start to take notice.



  5. #5
    Just Win Baby
    Points: 302,578, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points
    Clones85''s Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    13,339
    Points
    302,578
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 3
    Given: 0

    Re: Non-Conference Schedule

    Football and Basketball are apples to oranges for SOS

    In basketball a strong SOS helps you get in the dance and get a better seed

    In football, unless you are in the BCS (which we won't be) SOS means nothing. All you need is 6 wins. So we should schedule horrible teams in football and start beefing up the schedule in basketball



  6. #6
    Legend
    Points: 165,002, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 62.0%
    Achievements:
    50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    HFCS's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Chicago
    Posts
    10,753
    Points
    165,002
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 630
    Given: 503

    Re: Non-Conference Schedule

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAdmiral View Post
    What do we think of the Non-Con schedule? To me it looks pretty weak, besides Michigan and maybe U of I and UNI. Is there any reason why we don't try and strengthen it? I understand that you want to win the non-cons but won't the NCAA take that into account if we end up being a bubble team?
    Take our non-conf schedule. Add two games against Big 12 teams. That's accurate in comparison to schedules around the nation.

    Can't compare our schedule to those outside the Big 12 when most of those leagues are playing two less conference games than we are.

    If we were playing 16 instead of 18 in league play. And the two teams we added were Arkansas Pine Bluff and Central Michigan I'd say it's weak. In reality those two games are two Big 12 South teams.

    Of course nobody outside the Big 12 will be thoughtful or thorough enough to realize this. Big 12 is going to OWN basketball RPI with an 18 game schedule and no Nebraska/Colorado going forward. The addition of TCU won't even matter that much with WVU coming in as another regular top 20 team.



  7. #7
    Addict
    Points: 95,078, Level: 96
    Level completed: 2%, Points required for next Level: 1,972
    Overall activity: 22.0%
    Achievements:
    50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    cyclones500's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Michigan
    Posts
    8,878
    Points
    95,078
    Level
    96
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 172
    Given: 420

    Re: Non-Conference Schedule

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAdmiral View Post
    What do we think of the Non-Con schedule? To me it looks pretty weak, besides Michigan and maybe U of I and UNI. Is there any reason why we don't try and strengthen it? I understand that you want to win the non-cons but won't the NCAA take that into account if we end up being a bubble team?
    Schedule was discussed in a thread a few weeks ago not going to search right now to find it, and it's OK to bring it up again, regardless.

    I think it's a weak schedule, although not all that different than a lot of ISU schedules of the recent past. Which is to say, not all that challenging. 2008-09 was harder; this year's is probably better on paper than 08-09.

    As Clones 85 mentioned, "In basketball a strong SOS helps you get in the dance and get a better seed ... we should schedule horrible teams in football and start beefing up the schedule in basketball."

    heitclone mentioned getting a higher profile to get early-season tourney invites that would help. If you had that, and could get a couple more home-and-homes (I still push for playing regional teams like Minnesota frequently), along w/ in-state games beyond that, I don't mind a little padding.

    My biggest gripe about going too cupcake-ish isn't even directly related to tournament resume. Piling up a bunch of fairly easy wins bulks up the record, but doesn't provide a good feel how a team might compete against conference opponents.



  8. #8
    Hall-Of-Famer
    Points: 56,199, Level: 73
    Level completed: 44%, Points required for next Level: 851
    Overall activity: 2.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    pulse's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    4,628
    Points
    56,199
    Level
    73
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 38
    Given: 47

    Re: Non-Conference Schedule

    I love it. The more beatdowns the better.



  9. #9
    Just Win Baby
    Points: 302,578, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points
    Clones85''s Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    13,339
    Points
    302,578
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 3
    Given: 0

    Re: Non-Conference Schedule

    Quote Originally Posted by HFCS View Post
    Take our non-conf schedule. Add two games against Big 12 teams. That's accurate in comparison to schedules around the nation.

    Can't compare our schedule to those outside the Big 12 when most of those leagues are playing two less conference games than we are.

    If we were playing 16 instead of 18 in league play. And the two teams we added were Arkansas Pine Bluff and Central Michigan I'd say it's weak. In reality those two games are two Big 12 South teams.

    Of course nobody outside the Big 12 will be thoughtful or thorough enough to realize this. Big 12 is going to OWN basketball RPI with an 18 game schedule and no Nebraska/Colorado going forward. The addition of TCU won't even matter that much with WVU coming in as another regular top 20 team.
    Big 10, Big East, and Pac 10 all have 18 conference games.



  10. #10
    All-Star
    Points: 21,861, Level: 45
    Level completed: 24%, Points required for next Level: 689
    Overall activity: 1.0%
    Achievements:
    10000 Experience PointsVeteran
    drednot57's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Nevada, IA
    Posts
    1,620
    Points
    21,861
    Level
    45
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 5
    Given: 8

    Re: Non-Conference Schedule

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAdmiral View Post
    What do we think of the Non-Con schedule? To me it looks pretty weak, besides Michigan and maybe U of I and UNI. Is there any reason why we don't try and strengthen it? I understand that you want to win the non-cons but won't the NCAA take that into account if we end up being a bubble team?
    Considering the team's situation at PG, this non-con sched. is probably best suited to find a primary player at the one. From what I've read, the PG position is still way up in the air.


    P.J. Farmer rocks!

  11. #11
    Speechless
    Points: 858,279, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 89.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteranCreated Album pictures50000 Experience PointsOverdrive
    CycloneErik's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Jamerica
    Posts
    55,328
    Points
    858,279
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1,454
    Given: 1,245

    Re: Non-Conference Schedule

    Noncon schedule is pathetic. If we lose twice with that schedule, we have to hope for the NIT. The other tournament will be out of the question unless we win the conference tournament.


    Since we are an elite team now, let's go get that One Cyclone Moment.
    Make this one for the ages!




    http://rememberingdoria.wordpress.com/

  12. #12
    Legend
    Points: 206,853, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 17.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points
    MNCyGuy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Des Moines
    Posts
    10,500
    Points
    206,853
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 381
    Given: 242

    Re: Non-Conference Schedule

    If we were looking at a season where there were a bunch of known quantities on the roster and we looked like a likely tourney team, i'd be inclined to agree that it's a weak schedule. With as many question marks as this team has though, i'm fine with the weaker schedule. If it's as good a team as hoped, we'll make it up in conference play.



  13. #13
    Just Win Baby
    Points: 302,578, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points
    Clones85''s Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    13,339
    Points
    302,578
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 3
    Given: 0

    Re: Non-Conference Schedule

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneErik View Post
    Noncon schedule is pathetic. If we lose twice with that schedule, we have to hope for the NIT. The other tournament will be out of the question unless we win the conference tournament.

    That's a bit dramatic!



  14. #14
    Addict
    Points: 208,342, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 26.0%
    Achievements:
    50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    MLawrence's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    7,507
    Points
    208,342
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 260
    Given: 103

    Re: Non-Conference Schedule

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneErik
    Noncon schedule is pathetic. If we lose twice with that schedule, we have to hope for the NIT. The other tournament will be out of the question unless we win the conference tournament.
    It would depend on how well they would do in the conference schedule, if that is the case. I think that they would be in the tournament if they had 12-6 record if they lost two non-conference opponents.



  15. #15
    Speechless
    Points: 254,395, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 31.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    Cydkar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    15,504
    Points
    254,395
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 452
    Given: 396

    Re: Non-Conference Schedule

    Quote Originally Posted by HFCS View Post
    Take our non-conf schedule. Add two games against Big 12 teams. That's accurate in comparison to schedules around the nation.

    Can't compare our schedule to those outside the Big 12 when most of those leagues are playing two less conference games than we are.

    If we were playing 16 instead of 18 in league play. And the two teams we added were Arkansas Pine Bluff and Central Michigan I'd say it's weak. In reality those two games are two Big 12 South teams.

    Of course nobody outside the Big 12 will be thoughtful or thorough enough to realize this. Big 12 is going to OWN basketball RPI with an 18 game schedule and no Nebraska/Colorado going forward. The addition of TCU won't even matter that much with WVU coming in as another regular top 20 team.
    Your argument is full of holes. ISU's pre-conference schedule is weak and dozens of teams play an 18 game conference schedule.



Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
  • Football
  • Iowa State vs. North Dakota State
  • August 30, 2014
  • 11:00 AM