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    White's fumble on the goal line?

    Was James' fumble on the goal line really a fumble? Looked like his knee was down. Wondered at the time why it was't reviewed. Seemed like they said there was also a declined penalty on the play? What really happened on that play?

    I thought it would turn out to be a huge play, but CPR and the Cyclones thought otherwise.


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    Re: White's fumble on the goal line?

    It was clearly a fumble, his knee was not down yet.



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    Re: White's fumble on the goal line?

    Clearly a fumble and Bykowski got called for a chop block.



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    Re: White's fumble on the goal line?

    Quote Originally Posted by CTTB78 View Post
    Was James' fumble on the goal line really a fumble? Looked like his knee was down. Wondered at the time why it was't reviewed. Seemed like they said there was also a declined penalty on the play? What really happened on that play?
    It was definitely a fumble, the ball was moving before the knee was down.

    I don't remember a penalty, but it's common for penalties on the offense to be declined on plays with turnovers because if the defense accepts it, then (generally) the offense keeps possession.



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    Re: White's fumble on the goal line?

    It was a fumble.

    I also thought Lenz fumbled the ball on that catch but thankfully they ruled he had not and didn't see enough evidence to overturn.



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    Re: White's fumble on the goal line?

    Quote Originally Posted by isuno1fan View Post
    It was a fumble.

    I also thought Lenz fumbled the ball on that catch but thankfully they ruled he had not and didn't see enough evidence to overturn.
    I was sure that Lenz's left elbow hit before the ball started moving but I think it would have been hard to overturn no matter what the call on the field was.



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    Re: White's fumble on the goal line?

    Fumble. The ball was clearly coming out with several inches of daylight between his knee and the ground. It was the right call.



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    Re: White's fumble on the goal line?

    Quote Originally Posted by isuno1fan View Post
    It was a fumble.

    I also thought Lenz fumbled the ball on that catch but thankfully they ruled he had not and didn't see enough evidence to overturn.
    Lenz's play was very close as well and shows how important the on-field decision is.



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    Re: White's fumble on the goal line?

    how about the screen pass to West when he spun on the defender without his knees touching and they called him down? He probably would have scored had they not missed that one. Good thing it didnt matter in the end.



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    Re: White's fumble on the goal line?

    One of our O lineman knocked the ball lose. Very unfortunate.



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    Re: White's fumble on the goal line?

    Quote Originally Posted by JHpsyclonz View Post
    how about the screen pass to West when he spun on the defender without his knees touching and they called him down? He probably would have scored had they not missed that one. Good thing it didnt matter in the end.
    That was amazingly close and I don't envy refs trying to make calls like that. One of thoseguys calls that you wouldn't be able to overturn if it was called either way. It was nice to see our young guys get involved in the passing game with Gary and West.



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    Re: White's fumble on the goal line?

    I thought it was pretty clear that Lenz had an elbow down, but if they had ruled it a fumble, I'm not sure we could have gotten it overturned.


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    Re: White's fumble on the goal line?

    It was good to have officiating go our way yesterday. They missed some holds on our oline and the Lenz fumble was a toss up. Finally caught a few breaks.



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    Re: White's fumble on the goal line?

    Quote Originally Posted by JHpsyclonz View Post
    how about the screen pass to West when he spun on the defender without his knees touching and they called him down? He probably would have scored had they not missed that one. Good thing it didnt matter in the end.
    i thought his elbow was down


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    Re: White's fumble on the goal line?

    Quote Originally Posted by ajk4st8 View Post
    It was good to have officiating go our way yesterday. They missed some holds on our oline and the Lenz fumble was a toss up. Finally caught a few breaks.
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