Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 47
  1. #1
    Addict
    Points: 124,376, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 13.0%
    Achievements:
    50000 Experience PointsVeteranRecommendation Second Class

    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Bondurant
    Posts
    7,567
    Points
    124,376
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 113
    Given: 43

    Now the big question...

    Where is ISU with Barnett at qb starting game 1? I have said all year that this is a good team but Turnover Machine has cost this team a lot. Jeez it just makes you wonder. I would say we beat at least Texas.



  2. #2
    Pro
    Points: 39,630, Level: 61
    Level completed: 45%, Points required for next Level: 720
    Overall activity: 2.0%
    Achievements:
    25000 Experience PointsVeteran

    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Borger, TX
    Posts
    2,577
    Points
    39,630
    Level
    61
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 17
    Given: 3

    Re: Now the big question...

    Bag on Jantz all you want, but he put up some points with his arm. Barnett will not get half the touchdowns Jantz has through the air if he starts every down the rest of the season. Did Reynolds get more than 2 targets tonight? Jantz has a much better arm and is willing to take risks. When Barnett was pressured tonight the play died. Jantz extended a ton of plays with his feet early in the season. We would have a worse record outside of conference play with Barnett playing every game, and no better one in it. The teams we played in conference were too good.



  3. #3
    Addict
    Points: 191,141, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 9.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    Dryburn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    8,805
    Points
    191,141
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 114
    Given: 3

    Re: Now the big question...

    I'm not sure it is that much of a question. Jantz turned the ball over a lot....Barnett does not seem to be so inclined. IMO, the future is with Barnett, Hollis and White, so you stick with them.

    I think right now Barnett may not appear as polished as Jantz, but we are not filled in on what the coaches are telling him, or giving him to work with either. It may be that he is operating within some constraints established by the coaches that were not put on Jantz at first.....we don't know.

    I just think you have to look to the future some, and personally, I would stick with Barnett, and develop him. Your future is not in a guy who is only going to be here for one more year in Jantz, or in a qb who can't stay academically eligible, imo.


    Last edited by Dryburn; 10-29-2011 at 09:42 PM.

  4. #4
    Pro
    Points: 39,630, Level: 61
    Level completed: 45%, Points required for next Level: 720
    Overall activity: 2.0%
    Achievements:
    25000 Experience PointsVeteran

    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Borger, TX
    Posts
    2,577
    Points
    39,630
    Level
    61
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 17
    Given: 3

    Re: Now the big question...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dryburn View Post
    I'm not sure it is that much of a question. Jantz turned the ball over a lot....Barnett does not seem to be so inclined. IMO, the future is with Barnett, Hollis and White, so you stick with them.
    Yes it is. You still need to score points. Barnett did not score a whole ton of points tonight, the O line did. And it has not played this well at all the rest of the season. You are not going to get 380 yards rushing every night, and to give all that credit to the QB is ludicrous. It should indict the QB, not the other way around.



  5. #5
    Hall-Of-Famer
    Points: 42,933, Level: 63
    Level completed: 99%, Points required for next Level: 17
    Overall activity: 10.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran25000 Experience Points
    heitclone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Malvern, IA
    Posts
    4,456
    Points
    42,933
    Level
    63
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 57
    Given: 148

    Re: Now the big question...

    I think the playcalling has been better with JB in, it was pretty conservative tonight but it didn't need to be flashy. IT seems like taking less risks has been paying off.



  6. #6
    Legend
    Points: 313,855, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 17.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialRecommendation Second ClassVeteranCreated Album pictures50000 Experience Points
    CyCrazy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    In a Bunker
    Posts
    14,542
    Points
    313,855
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 116
    Given: 21

    Re: Now the big question...

    Irrelevant we are where we are. You can question everything till the moo cow comes home. But in the end this is the spot we are in 4-4.



  7. #7
    Hall-Of-Famer
    Points: 53,907, Level: 71
    Level completed: 91%, Points required for next Level: 143
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    CyCloned's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Robins, Iowa
    Posts
    4,297
    Points
    53,907
    Level
    71
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 47
    Given: 30

    Re: Now the big question...

    I like what Barnett did with his feet as much as his arm, really had some nice runs. I also like that they slowed the game down for the most part. Not near as many penalties as in prior games on the offense, and much more consistant play.



  8. #8
    Addict
    Points: 82,670, Level: 89
    Level completed: 40%, Points required for next Level: 1,080
    Overall activity: 1.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    CYVADER's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Cornfields
    Posts
    5,231
    Points
    82,670
    Level
    89
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 11
    Given: 5

    Re: Now the big question...

    what if we started barnett for the first half of texas baylor and mizzou and played steele in the second of those 3 games!? i just blew my own ******* mind!



  9. #9
    Speechless
    Points: 335,044, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points
    ISUFan22's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Grimes, IA
    Posts
    31,730
    Points
    335,044
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 73
    Given: 152

    Re: Now the big question...

    Unfair. Horrible thread.



  10. #10
    Pro
    Points: 39,630, Level: 61
    Level completed: 45%, Points required for next Level: 720
    Overall activity: 2.0%
    Achievements:
    25000 Experience PointsVeteran

    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Borger, TX
    Posts
    2,577
    Points
    39,630
    Level
    61
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 17
    Given: 3

    Re: Now the big question...

    Quote Originally Posted by CYVADER View Post
    what if we started barnett for the first half of texas baylor and mizzou and played steele in the second of those 3 games!? i just blew my own ******* mind!
    This. we would be the #3 team in the nation, and ready to move up to #2 when they cannibalize themselves next week.



  11. #11
    Addict
    Points: 120,518, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 27.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points
    ianoconnor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Des Moines
    Posts
    7,135
    Points
    120,518
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 279
    Given: 562

    Re: Now the big question...

    Irrelevant. Can't change the past. Who cares.



  12. #12
    Starter
    Points: 17,457, Level: 40
    Level completed: 26%, Points required for next Level: 593
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    1 year registered10000 Experience Points
    CloneAbuse's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Clive, IA
    Posts
    857
    Points
    17,457
    Level
    40
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: Now the big question...

    Quote Originally Posted by brett108 View Post
    Bag on Jantz all you want, but he put up some points with his arm. Barnett will not get half the touchdowns Jantz has through the air if he starts every down the rest of the season. Did Reynolds get more than 2 targets tonight? Jantz has a much better arm and is willing to take risks. When Barnett was pressured tonight the play died. Jantz extended a ton of plays with his feet early in the season. We would have a worse record outside of conference play with Barnett playing every game, and no better one in it. The teams we played in conference were too good.
    Darius dropped the two that were in his hands. I will refrain his nickname, as he hasn't shown that he is what the names implies.

    Barnett is head and shoulders better than Jantz. All of you claiming Jantz is the better QB are just delusional. For those claiming the injury is the cause, wrong. Poor mechanics are his problem. He is jumpy back there, Barnett is smooth back there. We will be bowl bound with Barnett. KU, and one other upset...book it!



  13. #13
    Addict
    Points: 97,097, Level: 97
    Level completed: 3%, Points required for next Level: 1,953
    Overall activity: 7.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    Clonefan94's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Schaumburg, IL
    Posts
    5,933
    Points
    97,097
    Level
    97
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 97
    Given: 39

    Re: Now the big question...

    I would say we are close to being in the same position. Turnovers killed us for sure, but they weren't all Jantz's turnovers. Plus there was a ton of other bad play, stupid mistakes and dropped balls that weren't the QBs fault. The team finally put it together tonight. The O-line was finally pushing people around, which I haven't seen all year until tonight.



  14. #14
    All-Star
    Points: 28,505, Level: 51
    Level completed: 87%, Points required for next Level: 145
    Overall activity: 2.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran25000 Experience Points
    Cyclone1985's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Grimes
    Posts
    1,483
    Points
    28,505
    Level
    51
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: Now the big question...

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUFan22 View Post
    Unfair. Horrible thread.
    Why, because no one is bagging on the receivers?!



  15. #15
    Pro
    Points: 59,196, Level: 75
    Level completed: 44%, Points required for next Level: 854
    Overall activity: 18.0%
    Achievements:
    VeteranCreated Album pictures50000 Experience Points
    besserheimerphat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Mount Vernon, WA
    Posts
    2,524
    Points
    59,196
    Level
    75
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 64
    Given: 65

    Re: Now the big question...

    Quote Originally Posted by brett108 View Post
    Bag on Jantz all you want, but he put up some points with his arm. Barnett will not get half the touchdowns Jantz has through the air if he starts every down the rest of the season. Did Reynolds get more than 2 targets tonight? Jantz has a much better arm and is willing to take risks. When Barnett was pressured tonight the play died. Jantz extended a ton of plays with his feet early in the season. We would have a worse record outside of conference play with Barnett playing every game, and no better one in it. The teams we played in conference were too good.
    Has Reynolds consistently caught more than 50% of the balls thrown to him in each game? No? Then why force the ball to him? Money had four great games and disappeared for three other games with Jantz starting. Reynolds appeared to be double covered a lot tonight, at least three times when Barnett did try to go to him.

    It doesn't matter how we score, we just need to score as much as possible. Play the guy who give us the best opportunity to score. ISU averages 18.5 ppg in conference with Jantz starting, and 41 ppg with Barnett starting.


    You can spend a lot of time and money picking out the perfect floral bouquet for your date ... but you're probably better off checking if you have bad breath and taking the porn out of the glove compartment.

    The moral: you gain more by not being stupid, than you do by being smart. Smart gets neutralized by other smart people. Stupid does not.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
  • Football
  • Iowa State vs. North Dakota State
  • August 30, 2014
  • 11:00 AM