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    Re: Valuing CFB programs as businesses

    Thoughts:

    1. Okla St is at #18. I'd love to see where they would've been on such a list 10 years ago before the T Boone money and when they were pretty bad.

    2. Ole Miss is at #23. What? They have one of the lowest BCS conference revenues! Seems odd to me.

    3. Florida State at #54. Huh? Behind Wyoming, South Florida, and Washington State? Barely ahead of UTEP and Fresno State? Anybody below Washington State should be ashamed.

    4. Kansas at #59. See above comment.

    5. I thought Kansas was the lowest BCS team on the list...until I saw Rutgers at #93...who actually is a drain on the university in negative numbers.

    6. Houston at #95...Ahhh, the school everybody in the Big East thinks is a game-changer. Providing the university itself a $5 million dollar drain when the University of Texas is valued at almost $1 BILLION.



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    Re: Valuing CFB programs as businesses

    I'd be curious to see how they were valuated. As a finance and CFB guy, I'd actually like to read that report!



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    Re: Valuing CFB programs as businesses

    I knew Texas had some money, but HOLY **** that is crazy how much more they have than anyone else.


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    Re: Valuing CFB programs as businesses

    So what this guys is saying is that this is the "worth" of each athletic department....if they were for sale? That's what i gathered from the article.


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    Re: Valuing CFB programs as businesses

    Looks like Boise St. has beat us again.........bastards!



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    Re: Valuing CFB programs as businesses

    Quote Originally Posted by JustRedman View Post
    I knew Texas had some money, but HOLY **** that is crazy how much more they have than anyone else.
    Yeah, its amazing. Texas almost doubled the 2nd place team on the list. That's why some people believe the Big 10 will never expand without either Texas or Notre Dame.



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    Re: Valuing CFB programs as businesses

    Quote Originally Posted by cyman05 View Post
    Yeah, its amazing. Texas almost doubled the 2nd place team on the list. That's why some people believe the Big 10 will never expand without either Texas or Notre Dame.

    If how I'm reading this is correct though, the value of Texas and Notre Dame (mentioned but not officially ranked) could actually go down by joining the Big 10. Being an independent and in the Big XII, being able to control your own network and or TV rights would add a lot more value to a program than having to share that money 100% with other teams.



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    Re: Valuing CFB programs as businesses

    Can someone now do some numbers on performance based on value? It's kinda like the Cowboys being worth the most yet it doesn't translate to success on the field. Texas being 5-7 last year! Ah,fire the CEO - Mack Brown.



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    Re: Valuing CFB programs as businesses

    Florida State being that low is very surprising. I never would have guessed that.

    The top 20 was about what I thought it would be.



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    Re: Valuing CFB programs as businesses

    Quote Originally Posted by kberyldial View Post
    Can someone now do some numbers on performance based on value? It's kinda like the Cowboys being worth the most yet it doesn't translate to success on the field. Texas being 5-7 last year! Ah,fire the CEO - Mack Brown.
    My nonstatistical, just going off memory opinion:

    1.Texas- Nation champ and usually BCS game contenders-money well spent

    2.Georgia-they've played in at least two BCS games I can remember but no NC (or even close really-slightly underperformed)

    3.Penn State-played in two BCS games the last decade with some awful seasons mixed in-underperformed

    4.Florida - 2 NC's and contenders in SEC most years-money well spent

    5.LSU -see Florida above-money well spent

    6.Michigan-if it weren't for Rodriguez I'd say it was money well spent but we can't just pretend the last 3 years never happened-underachievers

    7.Alabama-National Champs and could do it again this year-money well spent

    8.Auburn- National Champs even though their net income is considerably less after paying Cam Newton-money well spent
    9.OU -it's been awhile since that championship but they're contenders every year- money well spent

    10. Tennessee: fail.

    11. South Carolina: epic fail

    12. Ohio State: can't believe they're this low actually, they're definately worth the investment

    13. Nebraska: underperformed. The middle of the last decade was not kind

    14. A & M: it's almost an annual tradition to see A & M start in the top 10 in the polls only to watch them fall to back end of the top 25 (or out of it completely)-underperformed

    15. Iowa-Meh. good: Two BCS bowl games, 2 Big 10 titles(shared), 4 top 10 finishes. bad: number of 6/7 win seasons sprinkled in. I'll let non biased people decide this one

    16. Mich State - The Big 10's TAMU. classic underachievers

    17. Arkansas - They did get to a BCS bowl game finally but they should really have better results-underperformed

    18. Ok State - They've got a good team this year but the last decade should be better than it is considering how much Pickens has put into this program.-underperformers

    19 -Wisconsin - If it wasn't for last year and this year they'd be underperformers. Therefore I'll say they're valued correctly.

    20. Kentucky-What's worse than an epic fail?

    41. ISU - this year they're on field performance is right in line with this ranking. The last decade would make them underperformers though if this ranking system held throughout the decade.



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    Re: Valuing CFB programs as businesses

    Quote Originally Posted by dtlantz View Post
    I'd be curious to see how they were valuated. As a finance and CFB guy, I'd actually like to read that report!
    If it's anything like Forbes' valuation of MLB franchises, it would include:

    1. Sport (Value from Revenue Sharing)
    2. Market
    3. Facilities
    4. Brand

    What would be fascinating would be to see the comparison with revenue sharing taken out -- the dominance of the teams at the top would be even more astounding.



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    Re: Valuing CFB programs as businesses

    Quote Originally Posted by cyman05 View Post


    6. Houston at #95...Ahhh, the school everybody in the Big East thinks is a game-changer. Providing the university itself a $5 million dollar drain when the University of Texas is valued at almost $1 BILLION.
    Some of those smaller schools that are trying to compete with BCS schools may be more leveraged in an attempt to compete in facilities with higher revenue schools. Because of this, their value may be lower until they get into a larger conference with more revenue.

    I'd suspect that much of the value of the teams on the lower 3/4 of the list is based on revenue sharing. I think Houston would make a huge jump if added to the Big East or the Big 12 (although Rutgers being that low is surprising).



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