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    Offense should get on track against Toledo

    Everybody knows at this point Toledo is giving up 500+ yards and almost 50 points per game. They have also played two teams that are steamrolling people - Purdue and Kansas. However, they are giving up some other absolutely mind blowing stats defensivly:

    They give up 6.7 yards per play.

    They give up 5.7 yards per rush.

    They give up 7.9 yards per pass attempt.

    They give up a whopping 15.1 yards per catch.

    If there were ever a game for the offense to get on track this is it. They also get penalized a lot - they have 25 penalities through the three games and they've turned the ball over 7 times. They've only force 2 turnovers. ISU needs to win this game, Toledo is playing as badly as anybody we've played so far.

    HOWEVER - they do run a high risk/high reward defense. They have a lot of tackles for loss and the offensive line will really have to show some cohesiveness to really hang tough in there. I can honestly see 45+ rushing attempts for this game between Meyer, Robinson, and Bass.

    Edit: Herbert and Morris, the two good players in Toledo's secondary, are still injured and not on the depth chart.


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    Re: Offense should get on track against Toledo

    I look for Brett to have a huge day against Toledo's weakened secondary. My guess is that they will stack the box and force the deep ball. We've seen this already and Brett seemed pretty accurate on his long throws against EIU. The Cyclone offense has demonstrated a capability and tendency in the running game and short passes.



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    Re: Offense should get on track against Toledo

    Based on our shaky line play thus far in protecting the quarterback, and Bret's rough play (at least in the first two games), if I were Toledo I would put 7 in the box and bring a wide variety of blitz packages. Hopefully we will be able to use a lot of 3 step drops and short patterns, get the ball to our receivers, and let them make plays against their depleted (both talent and numbers if they blitz) secondary. Also, some swing passes to the RBs and well-designed draws for the RBs and QB could work well.



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    Re: Offense should get on track against Toledo

    What is so different from their team last year as opposed to this year? Who left?



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    Re: Offense should get on track against Toledo

    The old good qb was benched.


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    Re: Offense should get on track against Toledo

    Quote Originally Posted by Clone9 View Post
    Based on our shaky line play thus far in protecting the quarterback, and Bret's rough play (at least in the first two games), if I were Toledo I would put 7 in the box and bring a wide variety of blitz packages. Hopefully we will be able to use a lot of 3 step drops and short patterns, get the ball to our receivers, and let them make plays against their depleted (both talent and numbers if they blitz) secondary. Also, some swing passes to the RBs and well-designed draws for the RBs and QB could work well.

    Shaky line play? We've given up one sack in three games. I know a lot of people attribute that to quick passes, but if you watch any of the replays, Bret has had all day to throw the ball. That includes deep patterns as well.



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    Re: Offense should get on track against Toledo

    Quote Originally Posted by jahfg View Post
    Shaky line play? We've given up one sack in three games. I know a lot of people attribute that to quick passes, but if you watch any of the replays, Bret has had all day to throw the ball. That includes deep patterns as well.
    I agree with this. The line play has been really remarkable given the situation. Good schemes certainly help. I think the key to Toledo is getting on top of them quickly. If we can be up a touchdown or two within the first quarter and a half, I would say we breeze through the game. If it's tied, or we're behind at that point, it will probably be a dog fight.



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    Re: Offense should get on track against Toledo

    they have the worst d in div 1.



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    Re: Offense should get on track against Toledo

    I have been super impressed with the line. Its young and they have not played a lot together.



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    Re: Offense should get on track against Toledo

    Quote Originally Posted by Tweedt4Cy View Post
    they have the worst d in div 1.
    Its not like ISU has been torching defenses so far this year. If they score 31 or more I will be shocked. Vegas has it at 3 points, I think it may be a close game.

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    Re: Offense should get on track against Toledo

    Quote Originally Posted by Tweedt4Cy View Post
    they have the worst d in div 1.
    As a result of the offense hanging them out to dry the first two games. You can't have your offense go 3 and out several series in a row and not expect the defense to be winded. If you look at the Iowa game, when the offense sustained drives, the defense looked sharp most of the game. If the offense keeps the defense off the field for a decent rest period the defensive numbers will improve.


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