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    Officiating as it is today

    I am beginning to sense . . that we fans are slowly losing control of the game we love. The impression I have of officiating during the past several years in college and professional sports is that . . officials have taken over the game.

    The infamous Detroit Lion - Chicago Bear football game last year when by every appearance . . Detroit scored the winning touchdown via a pass. The "lawyers" upstairs had to go into session to determine if the receiver controlled the ball all the way through the play. Most fans saw a touchdown . . yet the lawyers straining at a knat . . overruled the call on the field. The letter of the law overruled common sense. Good police departments TEACH discretion when it comes to writing tickets . . in short, you don't write tickets for everything you see. Yet officials, like the good little lawyers they are, are throwing flags left and right for EVERY infraction . . or so it seems.

    The Iowa State - Texas game likewise was painful to watch . . just like every other game to this point that I have viewed on TV or listened to on radio. I have come to expect a "blocking in the back" call on every kickoff. Every long run from scrimmage . . . again, I am looking for a flag. To wit: Bruns was not a happy camper with all the holding calls in the Texas ISU game . . as he stated, one can be called for holding on almost any play. Yet, lawyers expect perfection and are constantly inserting themselves in the play. IMHO lawyers (officials) are slowly taking over the natural ebb and flow of collegiate and professional football.

    The constant reviews have destroyed momentum associated with exciting plays. The flurry of penalties have become troublesome because so many of them are so ridiculously petty.

    For us old timers, we remember when ISU played Arkansas (late 70s) in LittleRock . . .and how the Hogs scored the winning touchdown with 12 players on the field. It was exasperating . . but we moved on. I think the officials blew the call . . though many thought it might be some "home cooking." I would almost have that kind of scenario versus the power grabbing by the "show off" officials we are now seeing on the field.

    Why can't we hold officials to a higher standard AND be able to rate or evaluate these lawyer teams on the field? We have placed obsessive compulsive lawyers/officials into positions of great power . . . and they have performed like dysfunctional OCD types.

    Are we going to let them, conference commissioners, et al change the culture of football? Fans, football players, and coaches deserve better than this . . count me as one individual who is getting sick of how modern football has been turned over to the laywers by fiat. We need balance . . and we should start voicing our collective opinions in any forum we can . . otherwise we are going to lose the wonder and excitement of college (and professional) football.



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    Re: Officiating as it is today

    I agree the officiating at games has gotten out of control. The Texas game was horrible, however, I can't hold a grudge because we lost the game for ourselves. You can tell money, and power status controls the calls on the field last Saturday. Running into the kicker, any play over 20 yds for ISU, or even 10 yards was reviewed, holding calls, and of course the L. Johnson call, even tho Texas was doing it and worse most of the night.

    Another, was during the Pak vs. Bears game 2 weeks ago when Chicago had the "fake" punt return and Nox ran it back for a touchdown.... Did the holding call effect the play or hurt anybody? NO, it should not have been called, and that play should have gone down in the history books as one of the most creative plays in history... Thanks to the refs, that cannot be the case!



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    Re: Officiating as it is today

    Another, was during the Pak vs. Bears game 2 weeks ago when Chicago had the "fake" punt return and Nox ran it back for a touchdown.... Did the holding call effect the play or hurt anybody? NO, it should not have been called, and that play should have gone down in the history books as one of the most creative plays in history... Thanks to the refs, that cannot be the case!
    You should probably place the blame on the idiot that held a guy that had no way of affecting the outcome of the play instead of the ref who called an obvious penalty.



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    Re: Officiating as it is today

    Quote Originally Posted by 3TrueFans View Post
    You should probably place the blame on the idiot that held a guy that had no way of affecting the outcome of the play instead of the ref who called an obvious penalty.

    This. The refs job is to determine whether or not a foul has occurred, not judge whether or not the foul impacted the outcome of a play.

    And in the case of the Calvin Johnson "TD" catch. Like it or not, that's the way the NFL rules were written. The issue needed to be taken up with the NFL competition committee, but you can't blame the refs for calling the play according to the rules.


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    Re: Officiating as it is today

    Quote Originally Posted by 3TrueFans View Post
    You should probably place the blame on the idiot that held a guy that had no way of affecting the outcome of the play instead of the ref who called an obvious penalty.
    Or the Texans game: Blame the moron who raced to catch up to a guy so he could block him in the back, even though that player had no chance of stopping his teammate from scoring a touchdown.

    If players don't make a billion stupid mistakes, there aren't a billion flags thrown. It's really very simple.


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    Re: Officiating as it is today

    It is not running into the kicker if you block the kick. I have seen this complaint a bunch of times and I dont understand why people or so po'd about this.



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    Re: Officiating as it is today

    I agree that it has really slowed the game down. I get the value when it's something close (stepping out of bounds, etc) that they can check and is impactful, but sometimes it seems they will review a play just to do it and the momentum is gone for teams.

    And the funny thing, last week they officials on the field incorrectly said a PAT was good when it wasn't in the Syracuse game AND the reply folks didn't overturn it...unreal!



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    Re: Officiating as it is today

    The fact that penalties are called on incidents that have no effect on the play is ridiculous (except something like a personal foul or unsportsmanlike conduct). If it has no effect let it go and give the guy a warning. The refs have become so "by the book" that it is ruining some of the fun in this game.


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    Re: Officiating as it is today

    I accept the argument that officials are rarely consistent in college football today.

    Not only from game to game, but from team to team within the same game.


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    Re: Officiating as it is today

    I think they do fine. Nearly every questionable call the fans pods and moan about in the stands was the right call after I review the game at home. Id much rather spend a little extra time getting the cap right than having a bad call help decide the outcome of a game.



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    Re: Officiating as it is today

    Quote Originally Posted by CloneFan4 View Post
    The fact that penalties are called on incidents that have no effect on the play is ridiculous (except something like a personal foul or unsportsmanlike conduct). If it has no effect let it go and give the guy a warning. The refs have become so "by the book" that it is ruining some of the fun in this game.
    If it has no effect on the play you shouldn't be doing it anyways. Yes KO might hold the defensive end away from where the ball is at, but it is still a hold. Dumb in the first place, even dumber when away from the ball. Not the referees' faults.



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    Re: Officiating as it is today

    Quote Originally Posted by IcSyU View Post
    If it has no effect on the play you shouldn't be doing it anyways. Yes KO might hold the defensive end away from where the ball is at, but it is still a hold. Dumb in the first place, even dumber when away from the ball. Not the referees' faults.
    Holding is dumb period once it becomes a noticeable infraction that SHOULD be flagged every time. Screw giving your QB or RB a chance to make something happen after you get beat. Just screw your team more for a 10 yard penalty.



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    Re: Officiating as it is today

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Janny View Post
    This. The refs job is to determine whether or not a foul has occurred, not judge whether or not the foul impacted the outcome of a play.

    And in the case of the Calvin Johnson "TD" catch. Like it or not, that's the way the NFL rules were written. The issue needed to be taken up with the NFL competition committee, but you can't blame the refs for calling the play according to the rules.
    How about when a punt is rolling on the ground ready to be downed and a member of the receiving team gets pushed in the back 20 yards away? Are you going to throw the flag and call a block in the back?



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    Re: Officiating as it is today

    Quote Originally Posted by CloneFan4 View Post
    The fact that penalties are called on incidents that have no effect on the play is ridiculous (except something like a personal foul or unsportsmanlike conduct). If it has no effect let it go and give the guy a warning. The refs have become so "by the book" that it is ruining some of the fun in this game.
    Totally agree with your statement here. It's as if they have no feel for the game. They get caught up in what could happen, instead of letting the play occur, and then reacting to what actually happened.



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    Re: Officiating as it is today

    Quote Originally Posted by isumills View Post
    How about when a punt is rolling on the ground ready to be downed and a member of the receiving team gets pushed in the back 20 yards away? Are you going to throw the flag and call a block in the back?
    Well, yeah.

    Why in the hell are you shoving somebody in the back when the punt is about to be downed (espcially "20 yards away")? That's a special kind of stupid.



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