View Poll Results: Will ISU fix their problems with turnovers/penalties?

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  • Yes, turnovers/penalties will be greatly reduced the rest of the year.

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  • No, this will be a problem with this team for the rest of the year.

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    Turnovers and Penalties

    Four games have now passed and ISU has had problems in both categories in all games played. I think it's safe to say that this is a trend that we're going to be seeing the rest of the year, unfortunately.

    Does anyone think that we'll remarkably get these two problems fixed over the last two-thirds of the season? Or do most people agree that we will see it all year?

    It's pretty safe to say, IMO, that if we don't get much of a turnaround in these categories, we will not go bowling.



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    Re: Turnovers and Penalties

    I don't think it will happen every game but it's certainly a real problem.

    I would love to see ISU put together a complete, 4 quarter game at some point. We haven't sniffed that yet.



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    Re: Turnovers and Penalties

    Penalties get better. Turnovers will not.



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    Re: Turnovers and Penalties

    We're far enough into the season now that our team is what it is. You know that saying "you are what your record says you are?" I think it applies here, too. Our stats are what they say we are. I think it's probably wishful thinking that with our team heading into the heavy portion of the schedule they'll be able to improve on these key game factors.



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    Re: Turnovers and Penalties

    Completely agree. This is an undisciplined team that plays undisciplined football. One third of the season is in the books and it's been the same every game.




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    Re: Turnovers and Penalties

    We have no idea what will happen. This is completely on the players. They must decide for themselves what kind of team they want to be. Are they the bad news bears? Or are they on the verge of greatness and just going through growing pains?



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    Re: Turnovers and Penalties

    Easier to change now. Easier to get message across to your team after a loss. They didn't think they had to listen before b/c they were winning and feeling confident. Now they see what the errors do and it will be fixed. Mark it down!



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    Re: Turnovers and Penalties

    Quote Originally Posted by cstrunk View Post
    Four games have now passed and ISU has had problems in both categories in all games played. I think it's safe to say that this is a trend that we're going to be seeing the rest of the year, unfortunately.

    Does anyone think that we'll remarkably get these two problems fixed over the last two-thirds of the season? Or do most people agree that we will see it all year?

    It's pretty safe to say, IMO, that if we don't get much of a turnaround in these categories, we will not go bowling.
    if it couldn't get corrected with 2 weeks off it's not going to happen. It's all mental now. It's almost like they are trying to out do themselves with how bad they begin a game;


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    Re: Turnovers and Penalties

    They are still 3-1. If they play to their potential, they could be 5-1 when we see them again. Or...they could add 2011 to the long list of Cyclone football disappointments.



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    Re: Turnovers and Penalties

    Saturdays game will be the turning point of this season in those two categories. It may take some time but we will steadily get better on this as the season progresses.


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    Re: Turnovers and Penalties

    It's kind of hard to pick an option, because I think they'll be reduced, but still be a problem.

    The way our receivers have been blocking out in space has been scaring me all season. They are really trying hard to block, but are a little overzealous. They just have to find a happy medium, and I think they will. Our offense will continue to be TO prone, but I don't think these brutal 1st quarters can possibly continue -- maybe we'll just get one TO in the 1st instead of 3 from here on out.


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    Re: Turnovers and Penalties

    Remember that Jantz has been in a D1 program for only what, 6 months, and that he has limited experience outside of that. Given that a lot of our turnovers can be attributed directly to him (8 or 9 out of 14), I'd say that it's fair to believe that our TOs will decrease as the year goes on, but they will be a problem to some extent throughout the year.



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    Re: Turnovers and Penalties

    Get better, yes. Fixed, no.


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    Re: Turnovers and Penalties

    I think that is one of the few upsides to this loss. Up till now the players have been able to get by with giving up 3/4/5 turnovers a game and over 100 yards in penalties and still win. Now that they lost (got their ***** handed to them) the coaches should really be able to bear down on them for all the mental mistakes. Its sad that it took a massive loss, but if it helps the team in the long run ill take it. That said, I am still worried about the o-line being so dinged up.



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    Re: Turnovers and Penalties

    Quote Originally Posted by Clones85' View Post
    Easier to change now. Easier to get message across to your team after a loss. They didn't think they had to listen before b/c they were winning and feeling confident. Now they see what the errors do and it will be fixed. Mark it down!
    I agree. The loss grabs the team's attention.


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