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    Big XII contingency plan

    I hate to start a new thread but I wanted to start a new spin-off of the discussion.

    It appears that UT/TTU/OU/OSU are headed West.
    This leaves: ISU/KSU/KU/MU/Baylor as the 5 final pieces of the Big 12.

    Here are a few key scenarios I would like to see play out:

    1A. Massive Exit penalties, the 5 remain together

    1. Big 12 offices move to KC

    2. In this scenario, I would prefer to retain our Texas foothold and grab some combo of TCU/SMU/and Houston.

    3. After securing a Texas presence, attempt to lure a combo of Louisville, Cincy, Air Force, & BYU.

    4. Retain AQ status and create a much more manageable league and an opportunity for ISU to become very competitive.



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    Re: Big XII contingency plan

    NO SMU

    Also pull in UCF and USF for Florida recruiting.



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    Re: Big XII contingency plan

    Quote Originally Posted by delt4cy View Post
    I hate to start a new thread but I wanted to start a new spin-off of the discussion.

    It appears that UT/TTU/OU/OSU are headed West.
    This leaves: ISU/KSU/KU/MU/Baylor as the 5 final pieces of the Big 12.

    Here are a few key scenarios I would like to see play out:

    1A. Massive Exit penalties, the 5 remain together

    1. Big 12 offices move to KC

    2. In this scenario, I would prefer to retain our Texas foothold and grab some combo of TCU/SMU/and Houston.

    3. After securing a Texas presence, attempt to lure a combo of Louisville, Cincy, Air Force, & BYU.

    4. Retain AQ status and create a much more manageable league and an opportunity for ISU to become very competitive.
    Not to be a negative nancy, BUT

    once the superconferences are established, NO AQ status will be available outside of those 4 conferences. Also why attempt to bring these other schools up to AQ status why ISU is fighting for 1 of the 4 spots in the B1G??? Need to reduce competition, not increase it.



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    Re: Big XII contingency plan

    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsTournament View Post
    NO SMU

    Also pull in UCF and USF for Florida recruiting.
    This!
    I like this arrangement personally
    WEST:
    ISU
    MU
    KU
    KSU
    BYU
    Baylor

    EAST:
    USF
    Louie
    Cinci
    rutgers
    TCU
    Houston

    Or North South again but that wouldn't benefit us too much.

    North:
    MU
    ISU
    KU
    KSU
    BYU
    Rutgers

    South:
    Loui
    Cinci
    TCU
    Houston
    Baylor
    USF



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    Re: Big XII contingency plan

    West. * * * * * * * * * * * * East
    Boise State * * * * * * *Iowa State
    BYU. * * * * * * * * * * * * * Mizzou
    Baylor. * * * * * * * * * * * ND
    TCU * * * * * * * * * * * * * * USF
    SMU. * * * * * * * * * * * * * WV
    Houston. * * * * * * * * * * Cincy
    Kansas. * * * * * * * * * * *Louisville
    Kansas St. * * * * * * * * *Rutgers

    Wildcards (incase some teams don't agree)
    Air Force
    New Mexico
    Villinova (would be a BIG jump)
    Northern Illinois*
    UCF/FIU


    Iowa State: Anyone who's a true college basketball fan needs to see a game at Hilton Coliseum. Nice is in the DNA of Iowans and the fans here are particularly gracious -- even when the home team loses but gives a great effort, they are appreciative.

    ESPN.com picked Hilton Coliseum as the "Hot Arena" in the Big 12...coaches in the league noted that, "regardless of talent, the Cyclones have a home court like no other."

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    Re: Big XII contingency plan

    Quote Originally Posted by erikbj View Post
    Not to be a negative nancy, BUT

    once the superconferences are established, NO AQ status will be available outside of those 4 conferences. Also why attempt to bring these other schools up to AQ status why ISU is fighting for 1 of the 4 spots in the B1G??? Need to reduce competition, not increase it.
    But this is just media propoganda. Not to mention, who says the Big 10 is expanding, they may sit tight at 12 too, which would leave SEC at 14 and ACC at either 14 or 16.



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    Re: Big XII contingency plan

    Quote Originally Posted by cmoore_23 View Post
    West. * * * * * * * * * * * * East
    Boise State * * * * * * *Iowa State
    BYU. * * * * * * * * * * * * * Mizzou
    Baylor. * * * * * * * * * * * ND
    TCU * * * * * * * * * * * * * * USF
    SMU. * * * * * * * * * * * * * WV
    Houston. * * * * * * * * * * Cincy
    Kansas. * * * * * * * * * * *Louisville
    Kansas St. * * * * * * * * *Rutgers

    Wildcards (incase some teams don't agree)
    Air Force
    New Mexico
    Villinova (would be a BIG jump)
    Northern Illinois*
    UCF/FIU
    It is sad, but we may need Boise for football respect...



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    Re: Big XII contingency plan

    Quote Originally Posted by erikbj View Post
    Not to be a negative nancy, BUT

    once the superconferences are established, NO AQ status will be available outside of those 4 conferences. Also why attempt to bring these other schools up to AQ status why ISU is fighting for 1 of the 4 spots in the B1G??? Need to reduce competition, not increase it.
    Who says there will be no AQ conferences outside of those four? If remnants of Big 12 and Big East combine under one of those conference names it would be pretty hard to take away their AQ status...



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    Re: Big XII contingency plan

    Did we really need another thread for your "contingency plan"? There are countless pages on this stuff already.



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    Re: Big XII contingency plan

    Why can't the Big 12 stay together now and just add those teams? Why are OU, Okie St, TT, and Texas so hell bent on leaving now? What's wrong with this conference:

    North:
    Iowa State, MU, Kansas, K-State, Louisville, WVU
    South:
    Texas, TT, Baylor, OU, Okie State, BYU

    If we need two additional teams, Notre Dame is an obvious one if they'll want a conference for the North and TCU for the south. If not ND, take Cincy.



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    Re: Big XII contingency plan

    ND is not coming to the big 12. The only way we go to the big 10 is if Iowa and Nebraska rally the rest of the big 10 to ask us to come. So basically If Nebby and Iowa don't rally for us we are screwed there.

    Also the Big 12 has been so far has not even attempted to reach out to any other teams. Basically they have sat and watched other conferances pick off our teams.


    Nobody but HB knows for sure. You pretty much know nothing....like Knownothing would like to say.
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    Re: Big XII contingency plan

    Quote Originally Posted by SvrWxCy View Post
    Who says there will be no AQ conferences outside of those four? If remnants of Big 12 and Big East combine under one of those conference names it would be pretty hard to take away their AQ status...
    8 BCS spots (or whatever replaces the BCS). 4 conferences (8 Leagues), each League champion gets a AQ spot. They are not going to give a AQ spot to the left overs.



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    Re: Big XII contingency plan

    I think Missouri and WV are out long term as either Big Ten or SEC. I also think either ISU or Kansas, and possibly KSU is out long term as Big Ten but I'll include those 3 for now.

    There needs to be a focus on getting some good football, geography be damned.

    West:
    Boise State
    TCU
    BYU
    AFA
    Houston
    KSU
    KU

    East:
    ISU
    Louisville
    East Carolina
    South Florida
    UCF
    Cincy
    Memphis

    Or

    North:
    ISU
    KU
    KSU
    Boise State
    AFA
    BYU

    South:
    TCU
    Houston
    UCF
    South Florida
    Cincy
    Memphis
    East Carolina

    Big East catholic schools go to their own hoops league, they're loosing 3 marquee programs and Rutgers anyway.

    Those are your 13 best with Big 12/Big East leftovers, and ISU, KU, KSU, South Florida, Louisville, and Cincy could still all find a better home possibly.


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    Re: Big XII contingency plan

    Quote Originally Posted by erikbj View Post
    8 BCS spots (or whatever replaces the BCS). 4 conferences (8 Leagues), each League champion gets a AQ spot. They are not going to give a AQ spot to the left overs.
    If they have 8 team playoff, with 4 conference champs, they'd be smart to not only have the 4 at large bids, but guarantee one to a team outside the super 4 NFL leagues.

    If they don't they'll be forced to do something like it in the lawsuit they lose.



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    Re: Big XII contingency plan

    [QUOTE=Clonegrad07;2407530]Why are OU, Okie St, TT, and Texas so hell bent on leaving now? What's wrong with this conference?


    This is THE question that both puzzles and grieves me. In the minds of NU and aTm, UT was the bad guy, the reason for leaving. (Not sure about CU, but they always wanted to be with their cultural peers on the west coast.) But now, it appears as though TX is not so bad: three other conference schools are leaving with UT. If nobody likes UT, why join a different conference where UT will also be? Everyone says it's about the money, but the new Big XII TV package looked pretty darn good. I don't understand any of this.


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