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    Good article about the future of ESPN

    Why ESPN Has Already Lost the Future : Outkick The Coverage

    What do you guys think?

    I can't stand ESPN and would love to see less of them.



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    Re: Good article about the future of ESPN

    wtf ESPN, win the future.




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    Re: Good article about the future of ESPN

    This is why I think teams like KSU, KS, ISU, MIZZU, and Baylor need to form an online "network". The future isn't tv but streaming content. Like in the article Imagine if this network was picked up by Facebook. Facebook could offer much more in revenue and reach many more people.



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    Re: Good article about the future of ESPN

    The problem with the article is that there's a middle man regardless. If you start streaming everything, do you think Qwest is going to just sit back and let your audience stream as much as they want? Hell no! They want their piece of the pie too. Whether the middle man is Qwest/ESPN/Mediacom/Verizon/etc. there will always be a middle man.



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    Re: Good article about the future of ESPN

    Quote Originally Posted by bosco View Post
    This is why I think teams like KSU, KS, ISU, MIZZU, and Baylor need to form an online "network". The future isn't tv but streaming content. Like in the article Imagine if this network was picked up by Facebook. Facebook could offer much more in revenue and reach many more people.
    What's that network going to show that is worth a damn? None of those schools is going to demand a lot of subscriptions and what is going to be shown? Yes you might get Iowa State playing Northern Iowa, Missouri playing Directional State University, and the other 3 doing the same, but where is your revenue stream? Break games during basketball aren't going to command an audience.

    If it was as easy and as brainless of a decision as people make it out to be it would already be done.



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    Re: Good article about the future of ESPN

    I lost all respect for ESPN a long time ago. I only watch it now for games or highlights on sportscenter. It's become completely agenda driven in its coverage and was borderline TMZ like covering stories like Brett Favre and the Tiger Woods scandal. Totally taking Craig James' side against Mike Leach just because he worked for them was a total farce


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    Re: Good article about the future of ESPN

    Quote Originally Posted by IcSyU View Post
    The problem with the article is that there's a middle man regardless. If you start streaming everything, do you think Qwest is going to just sit back and let your audience stream as much as they want? Hell no! They want their piece of the pie too. Whether the middle man is Qwest/ESPN/Mediacom/Verizon/etc. there will always be a middle man.
    what



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    Re: Good article about the future of ESPN

    Quote Originally Posted by JY07 View Post
    what
    The article is crying about ESPN being the middle man between consumers and the conferences. No matter what happens, there will ALWAYS be a middle man. If you want to stream online, your internet providers are going to jack up the rates even more than they already are. If you want stuff to be on TV, the cable providers already have you by the balls.



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    Re: Good article about the future of ESPN

    Quote Originally Posted by IcSyU View Post
    What's that network going to show that is worth a damn? None of those schools is going to demand a lot of subscriptions and what is going to be shown? Yes you might get Iowa State playing Northern Iowa, Missouri playing Directional State University, and the other 3 doing the same, but where is your revenue stream? Break games during basketball aren't going to command an audience.

    If it was as easy and as brainless of a decision as people make it out to be it would already be done.
    It is already being done. Schools have streamed their third tier content for years off of their athletic websites. Your right probably not a lot of interest for companies like, Hulu, Netflix, or Verizon to show ISU volleyball, but if the schools that don't have TV contracts for their third tier games, basically everyone not named Texas, formed a "network" and as a group becomes much more attractive.

    Also this new network own's the rights and has more bargaining power and leverage. When negotiations for other rights with TV networks start again the online network can ask for better TV deal for 2nd tier rights or they will threaten to take those games and show them on their own streaming network.



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    Re: Good article about the future of ESPN

    Quote Originally Posted by IcSyU View Post
    The article is crying about ESPN being the middle man between consumers and the conferences. No matter what happens, there will ALWAYS be a middle man. If you want to stream online, your internet providers are going to jack up the rates even more than they already are. If you want stuff to be on TV, the cable providers already have you by the balls.
    That is why the B10 is such a money maker even though they use FOX. The conference owns the rights, not the TV network. Like the article says. ESPN is making money off the subscriber fees and advertising. The B10 owns the rights so they get to double dip too.



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    Re: Good article about the future of ESPN

    Quote Originally Posted by bosco View Post
    That is why the B10 is such a money maker even though they use FOX. The conference owns the rights, not the TV network. Like the article says. ESPN is making money off the subscriber fees and advertising. The B10 owns the rights so they get to double dip too.
    Regardless, as consumers, we get screwed. There will always be that middle man. Unless of course a conference fires up their own cable company or internet provider.



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    Re: Good article about the future of ESPN

    Quote Originally Posted by IcSyU View Post
    Regardless, as consumers, we get screwed. There will always be that middle man. Unless of course a conference fires up their own cable company or internet provider.
    Yes your absolutely right there. B10 gets your subscriber fee based on your cable package regardless if you want it or not. I have the B10 network with my package because I like to watch sports and it is automatically included. So a % of my bill goes to the B10 and by default goes to Iowa University. Depressing if you think about it.



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    Re: Good article about the future of ESPN

    Quote Originally Posted by IcSyU View Post
    The article is crying about ESPN being the middle man between consumers and the conferences. No matter what happens, there will ALWAYS be a middle man. If you want to stream online, your internet providers are going to jack up the rates even more than they already are. If you want stuff to be on TV, the cable providers already have you by the balls.
    How do you figure that?

    ESPN is a single provider: if you want their content, you have to go through them... that's why it works for them

    You aren't stuck with a single provider for the "internet": if mediacom started jacking up their rates, you can go with someone else.

    If your theory held any water, ISP's would be charging extra for access to high volume domains (youtube, hulu, netflix, etc) today



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    Re: Good article about the future of ESPN

    Quote Originally Posted by JY07 View Post
    How do you figure that?

    ESPN is a single provider: if you want their content, you have to go through them... that's why it works for them

    You aren't stuck with a single provider for the "internet": if mediacom started jacking up their rates, you can go with someone else.

    If your theory held any water, ISP's would be charging extra for access to high volume domains (youtube, hulu, netflix, etc) today
    You don't think ISPs aren't trying to figure out how to (legally) do that very thing?


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    Re: Good article about the future of ESPN

    Quote Originally Posted by JY07 View Post
    How do you figure that?

    ESPN is a single provider: if you want their content, you have to go through them... that's why it works for them

    You aren't stuck with a single provider for the "internet": if mediacom started jacking up their rates, you can go with someone else.

    If your theory held any water, ISP's would be charging extra for access to high volume domains (youtube, hulu, netflix, etc) today
    You think that isn't happening already? There will ALWAYS be a middle man. It costs Qwest more to stream ESPN3 to you. Do you honestly think Qwest doesn't recapture their loss by passing it on to their customers? Your internet bill isn't priced by charging for the lowest usage. They're charging you as if you are constantly using your connection. If you maxed out your connection all of the time, they'll make a little money. When your connection sits idle, they're making more money.

    Right now you have:

    Conferences --- ESPN --- Cable Companies --- Consumer.

    Conferences --- Internet Providers --- Customers

    No matter what you do, there will always be that middle man. Unless the conferences have the distribution means (either their own cable company or their own ISP), there will ALWAYS be the middle man.


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