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    It seems Ray Lee is no Robert E

    Charged with 4 counts of felony sexual assault. Maybe he was just there and didn't participate.


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    Re: It seems Ray Lee is no Robert E

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    Re: It seems Ray Lee is no Robert E

    I'll assume we just lost him to Iowa now.



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    Re: It seems Ray Lee is no Robert E

    Quote Originally Posted by ManBearClone View Post
    I'll just assume we just lost him to Iowa now.
    I think that's a safe assumption.



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    Re: It seems Ray Lee is no Robert E

    Borzello just tweeted that he talked to a source that thinks all charges will be dropped. If true, good for Ray Lee.



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    Re: It seems Ray Lee is no Robert E

    Nice reaction.

    So, if the the charges are dropped, one might conclude he was falsely accused. That IS possible. See: Duke Lacrosse. If not, and he is proven guilty, then: bad Ray Lee, dispicable.

    But I guess in your mind, this is already done - if he's charged, then he's guilty, no need for due process, and a trial??

    Edit: post in response to a post by JCREEK that was obviously removed for getting personal.


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    Re: It seems Ray Lee is no Robert E

    Quote Originally Posted by madcityCY View Post
    Borzello just tweeted that he talked to a source that thinks all charges will be dropped. If true, good for Ray Lee.

    What do you mean good for Ray Lee. Do you have facts that he did not assualt this women??? better get facts before you go cheering him in his corner.



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    Re: It seems Ray Lee is no Robert E

    Quote Originally Posted by JCREEK View Post
    What do you mean good for Ray Lee. Do you have facts that he did not assualt this women??? better get facts before you go cheering him in his corner.
    might want to take your own advice before condemning him, either.


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    Re: It seems Ray Lee is no Robert E

    Quote Originally Posted by JCREEK View Post
    What do you mean good for Ray Lee. Do you have facts that he did not assualt this women??? better get facts before you go cheering him in his corner.
    Do you have proof that he did? Proof is the burden of the accuser.

    I have no dog in this. Try to read the post sans emotion. If he didn't do what the accuser said he did, then that is obviously a good thing for Mr. Lee. I he DID do what e is accused of, that is very bad for Mr. Lee. plain and simple.



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    Re: It seems Ray Lee is no Robert E

    Quote Originally Posted by JCREEK View Post
    What do you mean good for Ray Lee. Do you have facts that he did not assualt this women??? better get facts before you go cheering him in his corner.
    Innocent until proven guilty. It's sort of an important idea in this country of ours.



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    Re: It seems Ray Lee is no Robert E

    Yeah have to see how the process plays out, I was falsely arrested for 2nd Degree Burglary Class D Felony once. That got dropped without me doing anything, over-aggressive law enforcement a holes. They don't think much about charging someone when they do it or how that will affect the accused's reputation.



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    Re: It seems Ray Lee is no Robert E

    Quote Originally Posted by NATEizKING View Post
    Yeah have to see how the process plays out, I was falsely arrested for 2nd Degree Burglary Class D Felony once. That got dropped without me doing anything, over-aggressive law enforcement a holes. They don't think much about charging someone when they do it or how that will affect the accused's reputation.

    Here's the deal with sexual assualts. No father, mother or family member wants to see daughter grilled by a def atty in court. They make the victim the accussed in all these cases. For example the u of i football cases same thing. So the family tells the victim to not press charges because of the brutal court hearings on victims. Its not right but thats the facts. I'm all about a fair trail but it will never happen....What victim wants to go through that.... Bottom line why was he in that spot anyway on a visit...



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    Re: It seems Ray Lee is no Robert E

    Quote Originally Posted by JCREEK View Post
    Here's the deal with sexual assualts. No father, mother or family member wants to see daughter grilled by a def atty in court. They make the victim the accussed in all these cases. For example the u of i football cases same thing. So the family tells the victim to not press charges because of the brutal court hearings on victims. Its not right but thats the facts. I'm all about a fair trail but it will never happen....What victim wants to go through that.... Bottom line why was he in that spot anyway on a visit...
    You have zero idea if that is what happened in this case. Nothing. Zilch. Nada. Pure speculation on your part.


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    Re: It seems Ray Lee is no Robert E

    Quote Originally Posted by JCREEK View Post
    Here's the deal with sexual assualts. No father, mother or family member wants to see daughter grilled by a def atty in court. They make the victim the accussed in all these cases. For example the u of i football cases same thing. So the family tells the victim to not press charges because of the brutal court hearings on victims. Its not right but thats the facts. I'm all about a fair trail but it will never happen....What victim wants to go through that.... Bottom line why was he in that spot anyway on a visit...
    Here's the deal with sexual assaults... yeah they can be tough on the accuser, but so can any trial, regardless of whether its sexual abuse... but there are evidence rules in all 50 states specifically addressing what can and cannot be inquired about in sexual assault cases... victim's are protected. It isnt like a defense atty can go in court and bring up every guy she's ever had sex with



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