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    Notre Dame Talk

    I saw CW had a nice write up about the possibilty of ND being a possible member of the Big12. It seems this maybe gaining traction as an article now on Fox Sports explains other reasons this marriage can work. I believe the future of college football with these mega conferences, independents have to find a home. With that said has anyone heard if there are any real talks going on? And if not, WHY NOT????



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    Re: Notre Dame Talk

    Noted Dame talk = Crazy talk


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    Re: Notre Dame Talk

    Quote Originally Posted by cyzmyguy View Post
    I saw CW had a nice write up about the possibilty of ND being a possible member of the Big12. It seems this maybe gaining traction as an article now on Fox Sports explains other reasons this marriage can work. I believe the future of college football with these mega conferences, independents have to find a home. With that said has anyone heard if there are any real talks going on? And if not, WHY NOT????
    I doubt you will hear any sources say that the Big 12 and ND or BYU are talking until A&M leaves, because no talking will probably go on except for an informal call from DeLoss Dodds to the ND prez that will be kept hush-hush.

    Did find this article interesting though

    Versus will expand its college football programming - USATODAY.com

    This, combined with the DMN tweet that the Big 12 would likely phase in ND to let them keep their NBC contract until it expired in 2015, would seem to continue to point to signs that ND would have to take the Big 12's offer very seriously.

    If you're NBCUniveral, you'd have to give ND a nudge to accept the Big 12's offer. Think about 4 years of getting rights to ND home games against Texas, Oklahoma, Okie St, Mizzou in addition to their non-conf home games. Also, if you're NBC, you would then have a good existing 4-5 year relationship with the Big 12 to give you solid footing with the Big 12 Tier 1 deal comes up in 2016. Since NBC-Comcast has been shut out of the major college sports deals, you'd think they'd likely pony up for a Big12 Tier 1 deal with ND included in it.

    Anyways, all the ND will be independent forever people will continue to say what they want, but I would think that with the push NBC is making to grow their college sports footprint that they'd nudge ND to think about getting in the Big 12. Whether ND admins would give a rip or not about NBC's desires I really don't know.



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    Re: Notre Dame Talk

    Quote Originally Posted by NobodyBeatsCy View Post
    Noted Dame talk = Crazy talk
    This. Notre Dame will not join the Big 12. Ever. Fans of all teams in the Big 12 need to just get that thought out of their heads.



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    Re: Notre Dame Talk

    A&M stays. we add ND and BYU. Big12 is large and in charge again. Oh and with a new power... ISU!



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    Re: Notre Dame Talk

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUAlum2002 View Post
    This. Notre Dame will not join the Big 12. Ever. Fans of all teams in the Big 12 need to just get that thought out of their heads.
    And an African American man will never be president.



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    Re: Notre Dame Talk

    I don't think ND to the Big 12 is crazy talk, just extremely unlikely.


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    Re: Notre Dame Talk

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUAlum2002 View Post
    This. Notre Dame will not join the Big 12. Ever. Fans of all teams in the Big 12 need to just get that thought out of their heads.
    But nobody has really answered the question of why ND will never join a conference. Why do they value independence so much?

    The Big 12 can easily address stability issues by signing a legally binding contract for x number of years with a rediculously high exit fee.

    If it was about the most money, they would've joined the Big 10 last year.

    If it was about recruiting, why would you turn down a chance to be in a conference with Texas and friends in the land o 10000 recruits.

    If it was about prestige, you can enjoy the prestige now of having a network in the Big 12, but retaining the benefits of being in a conference.

    If it was about tradition, conferences are beginning to tend toward 9 game schedules, making traditional out-of-conference rivalries harder to maintain.

    I'm still waiting to hear why ND will not join a conference sometime and what exactly it is about independence that they value so much.



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    Re: Notre Dame Talk

    What does ND have to gain by joining the big12



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    Re: Notre Dame Talk

    Quote Originally Posted by helechopper View Post
    And an African American man will never be president.

    wow....THIS.
    ND will eventually cave. matter of time. IF they can make $35 million + per year instead of $15 they may at least look at it. Its not like being Independent is making them awesome right now anyway...If we kept A&M and got ND, BYU this would a rediculus conference of 12.

    Will it happen...Probably not, but BYU and ND have to least talk about, because it would put them in a winnable situation and make them a TON more money. Just sayin..



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    Re: Notre Dame Talk

    The Big 10 offers more money, better academic reputation, more logical geographic fit, and much more stability than the Big 12. If ND ever decides it wants to join a conference, which is doubtful anytime soon, you're kidding yourself if you don't think the Big 10 would enter that lottery and likely win. Texas owns the Big 12. ND isn't going to suck up to anyone.



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    Re: Notre Dame Talk

    Quote Originally Posted by bringmagicback View Post
    What does ND have to gain by joining the big12
    1. Texas recruiting

    2. Automatic BCS access

    3. Money



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    Re: Notre Dame Talk

    Quote Originally Posted by HandSanitizer View Post
    wow....THIS.
    ND will eventually cave.
    They might cave eventually and join a conference, but they're not coming to the Big 12.



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    Quote Originally Posted by helechopper View Post
    And an African American man will never be president.
    I can certainly see the similarities in the two situations. (shouldn't need a pirate to detect the sarcasm in this post)



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    Re: Notre Dame Talk

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo View Post
    The Big 10 offers more money, better academic reputation, more logical geographic fit, and much more stability than the Big 12. If ND ever decides it wants to join a conference, which is doubtful anytime soon, you're kidding yourself if you don't think the Big 10 would enter that lottery and likely win. Texas owns the Big 12. ND isn't going to suck up to anyone.
    You're spot on, except for two things.

    1. If ND joins the Big 10, they're either at 14 or 16 teams, making it that much more difficult to get out of the conference as champion.

    But if you join a 10 team big 12 conference, its suddenly significantly more easy to get out of the conference as champion.

    2. No ND network in Big 10.



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