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    In State Basketball talent

    First I dont follow recruiting much. I thought the 2012 class Basketball class from the state was suppose to be this kick *** class. Then I look at the list posted here today and see only one players from the state on it. Looking into the future I see no in state kids on this. Why isnt this state producing more quality basketball players? In the past both Iowa and ISU have had quality Iowa kids on their teams and did well with them. I just think it is odd that all of a sudden the talent in the state has fallen off.


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    Re: In State Basketball talent

    Quote Originally Posted by kingcy View Post
    First I dont follow recruiting much. I thought the 2012 class Basketball class from the state was suppose to be this kick *** class. Then I look at the list posted here today and see only one players from the state on it. Looking into the future I see no in state kids on this. Why isnt this state producing more quality basketball players? In the past both Iowa and ISU have had quality Iowa kids on their teams and did well with them. I just think it is odd that all of a sudden the talent in the state has fallen off.
    I'm all for getting Iowa kids but if they want to leave the state i.e. Barnes and Paige who needs them when we can go out east and snare talent out there that is 10X better that state of Iowa talent.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CyclonesRulzzz View Post
    I'm all for getting Iowa kids but if they want to leave the state i.e. Barnes and Paige who needs them when we can go out east and snare talent out there that is 10X better that state of Iowa talent.

    I agree.


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    Re: In State Basketball talent

    The 2012 class is good but beyond that...



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    Re: In State Basketball talent

    Paige, Woodbury, Gessel are all 4 star top 100 guys. Kale Abrahamson is a top 150 guy. Staten is a mid major talent, maybe more. I'd say there is some good talent in Iowa



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    Re: In State Basketball talent

    Peter Jok has top 100 potential. He will get some high major consideration at some point.


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    Re: In State Basketball talent

    I think the class got a lot of pub a couple years ago by a radio blow hard but that was about it. A couple of the players are turning out to be good but the others are so so.


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    Re: In State Basketball talent

    This years class of Uthoff and Oglesby is pretty typical. I think the 2012 class is a bit unique in the fact that there are multiple guys with high major offers. It has happened before (Collison/Hinrich to KU comes to mind) but not the norm for our state. I think HB got the state some unearned respect and Gordon Hayward comparisons skyrocketed Uthoff's stock but I disagree with the OP- I think our talent has been increasing over the past few years.


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    Re: In State Basketball talent

    I think we may see more Bubu Palo/John Neal type Iowa kids as walk-on/final scholarship players instead of offering full rides to Clayton Vette-level talent...



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    Re: In State Basketball talent

    It will be tough to ever beat the class of 99'. I remember playing in state my senior year and meeting Roy Williams who was there watching Hinrich, Collison, Kover, & taking a look at my teamate, Sean Sonderliter, although he was just a junior at the time.

    That Class of 99' was pretty amazing. I might be wrong, but they were all in the 20 finalists for the Naismith award their senior year of college as well.


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    Thanks for the input guys.


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    Re: In State Basketball talent

    Quote Originally Posted by Clones85' View Post
    Paige, Woodbury, Gessel are all 4 star top 100 guys. Kale Abrahamson is a top 150 guy. Staten is a mid major talent, maybe more. I'd say there is some good talent in Iowa
    Paige not so much, but the rest of that group is all mid-major talent IMO.



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    Re: In State Basketball talent

    Quote Originally Posted by Clones85' View Post
    Paige, Woodbury, Gessel are all 4 star top 100 guys. Kale Abrahamson is a top 150 guy. Staten is a mid major talent, maybe more. I'd say there is some good talent in Iowa
    How does Gessel keep getting tossed in with Iowa? The kid lives in Nebraska.



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    Re: In State Basketball talent

    Quote Originally Posted by Rural View Post
    Paige not so much, but the rest of that group is all mid-major talent IMO.
    Woodbury has an offer from North Carolina...



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    Re: In State Basketball talent

    Fred Hoiberg's own class of 1991 (?) also had some outstanding talent relative to the state of Iowa as well. Himself, Loren Meyer, Hurl Beechum...anyone else in that group I'm missing?

    I think it comes and goes in cycles...one of the things that irritates me on this board is when posters try and write that we either should stay away from Iowa players because "they aren't any good" or recruit Iowa players specifically because we should have a couple of hometown kids on the team. Let's just recruit the best players we possibly can, location and geography be damned, and it shouldn't matter if they're from Des Moines or Detroit.

    Two questions....whatever happened with us and Staten? I know he committed and then de-committed at least once, so did CFH lose interest in him after that or did he lose interest in us? Also, what's going on with Jok? I seem to remember him getting a lot of publicity and hype as being the next great player out of the state of Iowa.


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