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    A nine team Big 12 is Ideal for FB

    Tired of hearing about A&M and their UT inferiority complex. Good riddance and have fun getting owned in the SEC (although the Texas legislature may have other ideas about letting them get owned).

    Nine teams in the Big 12 works much better (especially for the lower tier teams):

    • With four non-con games more B12 teams would be bowl eligible. 8 bowl teams yearly are not out of the question.
    • The path to a BCS championship game is easier for all B12 teams if you choose not to replace that ninth conf. game with a difficult BCS games in some or all years.
    • Fox will do anything to keep the B12 together. Worst case they would lower the revenues by 10% - 15% (and hopefully hold the rev./school in line) since their inventory of conference games would be going down.
    • 16 conf. basketball games also works better for the AP, coaches and computer rankings and making the NCAA's.



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    Re: A nine team Big 12 is Ideal for FB

    Drop one more and go back to the name "Big 8"! I know...different schools and it would never happen...



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    Re: A nine team Big 12 is Ideal for FB

    i agree with this.. we could have 4 non conference games! start the year 3-1 4-0 every season.. have to win 2 out of 8 games then to qualify. perfect scenerio. keep texas and oklahoma. would be fan freaking tastic.



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    Re: A nine team Big 12 is Ideal for FB

    I just don't think it's a viable long term option. It's only a matter of time before another school gets poached from another conference such as the Pac 12 whenever they decide to expand again. We need to be proactive in all of this and start adding schools. Plus, like Boomer said, the Networks would never let 9 schools split a 12 piece pie. It just wouldn't happen.



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    Re: A nine team Big 12 is Ideal for FB

    Quote Originally Posted by RedRaven View Post
    Tired of hearing about A&M and their UT inferiority complex. Good riddance and have fun getting owned in the SEC (although the Texas legislature may have other ideas about letting them get owned).

    Nine teams in the Big 12 works much better (especially for the lower tier teams):

    • With four non-con games more B12 teams would be bowl eligible. 8 bowl teams yearly are not out of the question.
    • The path to a BCS championship game is easier for all B12 teams if you choose not to replace that ninth conf. game with a difficult BCS games in some or all years.
    • Fox will do anything to keep the B12 together. Worst case they would lower the revenues by 10% - 15% (and hopefully hold the rev./school in line) since their inventory of conference games would be going down.
    • 16 conf. basketball games also works better for the AP, coaches and computer rankings and making the NCAA's.
    A 9-team conference will not have 8 bowl tie-ins. The current 8-team (soon to be 9) Big East Conference has just 6 bowl tie-ins.




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    Re: A nine team Big 12 is Ideal for FB

    Quote Originally Posted by gocubs2118 View Post
    I just don't think it's a viable long term option. It's only a matter of time before another school gets poached from another conference such as the Pac 12 whenever they decide to expand again. We need to be proactive in all of this and start adding schools. Plus, like Boomer said, the Networks would never let 9 schools split a 12 piece pie. It just wouldn't happen.

    Then give each member 30 million a year and leave it at 9



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    Re: A nine team Big 12 is Ideal for FB

    Quote Originally Posted by gocubs2118 View Post
    I just don't think it's a viable long term option. It's only a matter of time before another school gets poached from another conference such as the Pac 12 whenever they decide to expand again. We need to be proactive in all of this and start adding schools. Plus, like Boomer said, the Networks would never let 9 schools split a 12 piece pie. It just wouldn't happen.

    maybe... we would still have same tv contract hopefully and more money to go around the table. I say go the opposite way, and make the penalties on leaving very bad. 8 teams would be a great future. the super confrences would suffer with record, and no way they go undefeated very often. Shoot OU or Texas could have a nice path to championship after championship. Just saying... room for which ever 4 non con games you want.. as opposed to playing a huge con schedule.. way better. as long as we keep texas the money is there. basketball would be sweet.

    I wish Beebe would just go public and say if you want to leave A&M leave, we will be fine with 8, and infact schools will make more money. We will be strong with 8 as long as everyone is on board. Every game will be on TV easily. im in. Or at least go public and just say the Big12 will be fine... leave and we will just replace you with someone not so darn whiney.



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    Re: A nine team Big 12 is Ideal for FB

    Quote Originally Posted by gocubs2118 View Post
    I just don't think it's a viable long term option. It's only a matter of time before another school gets poached from another conference such as the Pac 12 whenever they decide to expand again. We need to be proactive in all of this and start adding schools. Plus, like Boomer said, the Networks would never let 9 schools split a 12 piece pie. It just wouldn't happen.
    The only reason ESPN agreed to holding the current deal is because it is such a bargain at 60 mil. per year (or whatever that pathetic number is). When it is renegotiated I would not expect to get 12 team conf. revenues only in the ballpark of B10/SEC/Pac 12 revenues per school. All I am saying is that all teams will be much happier with an 8 team FB schedule. happiness = more stability. OU and UT know they have the easiest path to the BCS championship than they would in any other conference. That is the ultimate reason they did not blow up the B12 last summer. They have it made in this FB conference and they know it.



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    Re: A nine team Big 12 is Ideal for FB

    Quote Originally Posted by RING4CY View Post
    A 9-team conference will not have 8 bowl tie-ins. The current 8-team (soon to be 9) Big East Conference has just 6 bowl tie-ins.
    We should do at least as well as the Big East in Bowl agreements.

    With 6 or 7 tie-ins some years there will be two B12 BCS teams (it would be easier to do this) which would mean at least 8 bowl teams. Also the way ISU travels it would have a good chance of still getting an invite from a non-B12 bowl.



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    Re: A nine team Big 12 is Ideal for FB

    I truly love the ideal of 9 teams, at least for the next 3 years until the new tier 1 contract is being negotiated. It could be a battle for the next 3 years to keep everyone from saying the conference is falling apart but it would make for some great revenue and an outstanding schedule...

    I personally am all for it...



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    Re: A nine team Big 12 is Ideal for FB

    Iowa State would probably add another non-conference road game. We don't want to spoil Rhoads by giving him seven home games.



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    Re: A nine team Big 12 is Ideal for FB

    In an ideal world... we don't expand until right before Tier 1 rights are negotiated... and at that point we expand our TV footprint. That said... if we wait until 2013/2014 to expand... then we might have last pick for teams if everyone else has already gone 16. I say we offer who we want now and form a 16 team conference and let everyone else scramble.



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    Re: A nine team Big 12 is Ideal for FB

    Quote Originally Posted by dbronco7sc View Post
    In an ideal world... we don't expand until right before Tier 1 rights are negotiated... and at that point we expand our TV footprint. That said... if we wait until 2013/2014 to expand... then we might have last pick for teams if everyone else has already gone 16. I say we offer who we want now and form a 16 team conference and let everyone else scramble.
    Ideal for BB as well. 18 game round robin.



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    Re: A nine team Big 12 is Ideal for FB

    Quote Originally Posted by Senolcyc View Post
    Iowa State would probably add another non-conference road game. We don't want to spoil Rhoads by giving him seven home games.
    or we could start the year with Northern Illinois, etc. Then Iowa, then uni at home for 3 well attended games. Then play a home and home with army or tulsa or unlv. Great chance to start out 4-0. What I would like even more is to put our 4th non conference game in the middle of our schedule like week 9 to help our team rest some in between playing through the big 12 stretch...



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    Re: A nine team Big 12 is Ideal for FB

    I would love for the Big 12 to stay at 9 teams. It would be great for ISU. We need a couple more years for Rhoads to make us relevant in football compared to where we have been lately. I have a feeling we could see an outstanding year in the near future, which would only help us out.

    I don't see it staying that way for long, like others have mentioned. When our TV deal is up for renegotiation, we will be looking to expand just before.



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