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    Where SHOULD Iowa State end up?

    Using average football attendance as a guide, here's how things look...

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    Conference	Average
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    SEC		76,625
    Big 10		71,764
    Big 12		61,743
    Pac 12		52,465
    Independent	51,624
    ACC		50,945
    
    Iowa St.	45,395
    
    Big East	44,945
    Mountain West	29,332
    Conference USA	28,481
    WAC		21,435
    Sun Belt	17,757
    MAC		15,718
    
    Where Iowa State ranks in the Big 12:
    
    School		Conference	G	Attendance	Average
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    Texas		Big 12		7	704,580		100,654
    Oklahoma	Big 12		6	508,426		84,738
    Texas A&M	Big 12		7	577,338		82,477
    Missouri	Big 12		6	369,240		61,540
    Texas Tech	Big 12		6	342,647		57,108
    Oklahoma St.	Big 12		7	355,684		50,812
    Kansas St.	Big 12		6	298,897		49,816
    Iowa St.	Big 12		7	317,767		45,395
    Kansas		Big 12		7	313,955		44,851
    Baylor		Big 12		6	240,259		40,043
    				
    					Big 12 Average	61,743
    
    
    Attendance numbers are from 2010 home games for each school
    Conferences were grouped based on where teams will play in 2011
    Link to data source


    Since 2000, Iowa State has...

    been to 6 bowl games (3 wins: Pitt, Miami (OH), Minnesota)
    reached a #9 ranking (2002)
    beat Nebraska 3 times (plus 2 losses in OT)
    beat Iowa 5 times
    beat Texas @ Austin (2010)
    beat Texas A&M @ College Station (2005)
    three players on the 2011 All-Big 12 1st Team (T Osemele, LB Knott, CB Johnson)
    just installed a $5 million video screen that is the 14th largest in the country
    approved a new $20 million football-only facility to be completed by August 2012


    If the Big 12 does dissolve, the bad news for ISU is that since the Big East already invited TCU, they only need three more teams to reach 12. Those three would likely be Kansas, Kansas State and Missouri. The best hope is that the SEC invites Missouri, allowing ISU to head to the Big East with KU and K-State.

    Unfortunately for the Cyclones, the state of Iowa does not provide an attractive TV market or fertile recruiting territory - two things that really work against ISU in these conference realignment power plays.



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    Re: Where SHOULD Iowa State end up?

    Big12



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    Re: Where SHOULD Iowa State end up?

    For the record, my personal feeling is that the Big 12 will stay intact, with or without aTm.

    I was curious to see which conference(s) would be the best "fit" for Iowa State, from a competitive football standpoint. It also confirms the fact that there is no chance in hell that we would ever end up in a High School conference like the MAC.

    I am also not mentioning AAU membership (which we have) or Tier 1 Research University status (which we have).



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    Re: Where SHOULD Iowa State end up?

    Quote Originally Posted by ISU_Alum_2000 View Post
    Using average football attendance as a guide, here's how things look...

    Code:
    Conference	Average
    ----------	-------
    SEC		76,625
    Big 10		71,764
    Big 12		61,743
    Pac 12		52,465
    Independent	51,624
    ACC		50,945
    
    Iowa St.	45,395
    
    Big East	44,945
    Mountain West	29,332
    Conference USA	28,481
    WAC		21,435
    Sun Belt	17,757
    MAC		15,718
    
    Where Iowa State ranks in the Big 12:
    
    School		Conference	G	Attendance	Average
    ------		----------	-	----------	-------
    Texas		Big 12		7	704,580		100,654
    Oklahoma	Big 12		6	508,426		84,738
    Texas A&M	Big 12		7	577,338		82,477
    Missouri	Big 12		6	369,240		61,540
    Texas Tech	Big 12		6	342,647		57,108
    Oklahoma St.	Big 12		7	355,684		50,812
    Kansas St.	Big 12		6	298,897		49,816
    Iowa St.	Big 12		7	317,767		45,395
    Kansas		Big 12		7	313,955		44,851
    Baylor		Big 12		6	240,259		40,043
    				
    					Big 12 Average	61,743
    
    
    Attendance numbers are from 2010 home games for each school
    Conferences were grouped based on where teams will play in 2011
    Link to data source


    Since 2000, Iowa State has...

    been to 6 bowl games (3 wins: Pitt, Miami (OH), Minnesota)
    reached a #9 ranking (2002)
    beat Nebraska 3 times (plus 2 losses in OT)
    beat Iowa 5 times
    beat Texas @ Austin (2010)
    beat Texas A&M @ College Station (2005)
    three players on the 2011 All-Big 12 1st Team (T Osemele, LB Knott, CB Johnson)
    just installed a $5 million video screen that is the 14th largest in the country
    approved a new $20 million football-only facility to be completed by August 2012


    If the Big 12 does dissolve, the bad news for ISU is that since the Big East already invited TCU, they only need three more teams to reach 12. Those three would likely be Kansas, Kansas State and Missouri. The best hope is that the SEC invites Missouri, allowing ISU to head to the Big East with KU and K-State.

    Unfortunately for the Cyclones, the state of Iowa does not provide an attractive TV market or fertile recruiting territory - two things that really work against ISU in these conference realignment power plays.
    Of course, there are a couple of other factors. If the SEC takes an ACC team as its east balance to TAMU, ACC likely responds by inviting a big east team opening a slot for all 4. Even if not, why not just take KU, KSU, ISU, MU, Baylor? Itd make it an even 14 (what SEC will be at at that point, nothing says you have to be at 12 or 16), and would give the big east another texas team with tcu, might cut down on some of the travel costs.



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    Re: Where SHOULD Iowa State end up?

    I broke it into my top 3.

    Dream: Big 10
    Hopefully: Big 12
    Worst Case: Big East



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    Re: Where SHOULD Iowa State end up?

    so did we have more home games then kstate? our attendance was higher, but avg was lower.



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    Re: Where SHOULD Iowa State end up?

    Quote Originally Posted by ItsCYence View Post
    I broke it into my top 3.

    Dream: Big 10
    Hopefully: Big 12
    Worst Case: Big East
    I'll go one further.

    Dream: Big 10
    Hopefully but looking shaky: Big 12
    Best case if big 12 falls apart: Big East
    Worst case: MWC

    I think the odds are low on MWC, but it could happen. And while our attendance numbers right now are way above the average MWC team, imagine what they'd be once we were in the MWC.



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    Re: Where SHOULD Iowa State end up?

    Quote Originally Posted by ItsCYence View Post
    I broke it into my top 3.

    Dream: Big 10
    Hopefully: Big 12
    Worst Case: Big East
    I'd go with that. Solid list.


    Since we are an elite team now, let's go get that One Cyclone Moment.
    Make this one for the ages!




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    Re: Where SHOULD Iowa State end up?

    Quote Originally Posted by alarson View Post
    Of course, there are a couple of other factors. If the SEC takes an ACC team as its east balance to TAMU, ACC likely responds by inviting a big east team opening a slot for all 4. Even if not, why not just take KU, KSU, ISU, MU, Baylor? Itd make it an even 14 (what SEC will be at at that point, nothing says you have to be at 12 or 16), and would give the big east another texas team with tcu, might cut down on some of the travel costs.

    Ps ISU is better then Kansas, BU, Kstate at most everything. ISU basketball is soon to be top of the Big 12 again as well... KU obivously has basketball (right now) and that is it. Kstate had a tiny football streak, but overall ISU has beat them more times then not, same as baylor.

    wait baylor has track and women basketball now, but we still outdraw baylor in women attendance i beleive.



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    Re: Where SHOULD Iowa State end up?

    What about academics and enrollment?


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    Re: Where SHOULD Iowa State end up?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tedcyclone View Post
    so did we have more home games then kstate? our attendance was higher, but avg was lower.
    Kansas St. Big 12 6 298,897 49,816
    Iowa St. Big 12 7 317,767 45,395



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    Re: Where SHOULD Iowa State end up?

    Quote Originally Posted by ISU_Alum_2000 View Post
    For the record, my personal feeling is that the Big 12 will stay intact, with or without aTm.

    I was curious to see which conference(s) would be the best "fit" for Iowa State, from a competitive football standpoint. It also confirms the fact that there is no chance in hell that we would ever end up in a High School conference like the MAC.

    I am also not mentioning AAU membership (which we have) or Tier 1 Research University status (which we have).
    I agree Big 12 will stay, all the $$ looks very attractive to any additions, ND, BYU, Houston, Arkansas, Louville, and Pitt all should be salivating.....



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    Re: Where SHOULD Iowa State end up?

    Quote Originally Posted by jburke View Post
    I agree Big 12 will stay, all the $$ looks very attractive to any additions, ND, BYU, Houston, Arkansas, Louville, and Pitt all should be salivating.....
    You have zero credibility mentioning Arkansas.



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    Re: Where SHOULD Iowa State end up?

    Quote Originally Posted by IcSyU View Post
    You have zero credibility mentioning Arkansas.
    I'd be alright with a straight up trade of A&M for arkansas



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    Quote Originally Posted by JY07 View Post
    I'd be alright with a straight up trade of A&M for arkansas
    Arkansas wouldnt be.



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