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    Thumbs up Top 25 College Football Programs

    For something fun, I thought it would be nice to see what people think are the elite College Football programs in the country, based on prestige and accomplishments...

    With Iowa fans thinking they're some-how a top 5-10 program that shouldn't stoop to playing Iowa State, I'd like to see where our fans rate the different programs using recent history as a guideline. NOTE, this isn't a ranking of the teams this year season or a ranking of the past century since some programs had very early success and nothing in recent times (Minnesota, Baylor, Illinois, Stanford, Colorado, etc).

    Here's mine...

    1. Michigan
    2. Notre Dame
    3. Ohio State
    4. USC
    5. Texas
    6. Florida
    7. Nebraska
    8. Oklahoma
    9. Miami (FL)
    10. LSU
    11. Florida State
    12. Alabama
    13. Penn State
    14. Wisconsin
    15. Virginia Tech
    16. Auburn
    17. Louisville
    18. West Virginia
    19. Kansas State
    20. Tennessee
    21. Texas A&M
    22. Georgia
    23. UCLA
    24. Pitt
    25. Texas Tech

    Other's: Air Force, Navy, Army, Michigan State, Arkansas.


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    Re: Top 25 College Football Programs

    I think this list from espn.com is pretty accurate:

    Updated: July 27, 2007

    What are the top programs of the past decade? That's the question ESPN.com has attempted to answer this week. Fifteen college football experts and analysts ranked all 119 Division I-A programs, taking into account record, traditions, recruiting, facilities, coaches, attendance and support, among other criteria.

    Nos. 1-25 (from 1997 to 2006)
    RANK TEAM RECORD WIN % TITLES BOWL RECORD

    1 USC 90-35 .720 2 national; 5 conf. 4-3
    Tradition, a talent pool that is local and deep, a coach who is both football smart and people smart, and a national identity among recruits as the "it" school: The Trojans have it all.

    2 Ohio State 97-28 .776 1 national; 4 conf. 5-4
    There may be eight Division I-A schools in the state, but there's only one that rules it from Toledo to Cincinnati. Coach Jim Tressel has polished the Buckeyes program to a fine sheen.

    3 Texas 98-28 .778 1 national; 1 conf. 6-4
    Vast resources and vaster tradition. Coach Mack Brown has brought back the Darrell Royal touch with the common folk, and he wins like Royal, too.

    4 Florida 94-32 .746 1 national; 2 conf. 5-5
    Were it not for the three moderately successful Ron Zook years, the Gators would be ranked higher. Only a strong program could rebound as quickly as Florida did.

    5 Oklahoma 95-33 .742 1 national; 4 conf. 4-4
    The Sooners won one national championship and played for two others. Even after vacating eight victories at the NCAA's behest, coach Bob Stoops is averaging nearly 10 wins a year.

    6 Michigan 96-28 .774 1 national; 5 conf. 5-5
    The Wolverines have won a national championship and played in four Rose Bowls in the past decade. Now, if they can only figure out how to beat the Buckeyes again.

    7 Florida State 96-31 .756 1 national; 7 conf. 5-5
    They got to this ranking by traveling in the wrong direction. The Seminoles' 14-year streak of top-five finishes ended in 2000.

    8 Miami 94-29 .764 1 national; 4 conf. 7-2
    Like their archrivals at No. 7, the Hurricanes have fallen, although more gently. Since winning the 2001 title, Miami has won fewer games in each of the past five seasons than in the season before.

    9 LSU 86-38 .694 1 national; 2 conf. 6-2
    Les Miles has continued the winning begun by Nick Saban, but these 10 years began with mediocre teams under Gerry DiNardo.

    10 Tennessee 94-32 .746 1 national; 2 conf. 3-6
    The Volunteers won it all in 1998 and have won or tied for three SEC East titles since. Downside: They haven't played in a BCS game in eight years.

    11 Georgia 96-30 .762 2 conf. 8-2
    The Bulldogs won under Jim Donnan and have won more under Mark Richt. They have played in three of the past five SEC Championship Games.

    12 Virginia Tech 95-31 .754 2 conf. 4-6
    The Hokies have been consistent winners under Frank Beamer, yet with the big exception of 1999, they have consistently fallen just shy of greatness.

    T-13 Nebraska 94-34 .734 1 national; 2 conf. 5-4
    The Huskers shared the 1997 national championship with Michigan. Frank Solich maintained the success for four seasons, but they haven't been the Mighty Huskers since.

    T-13 Wisconsin 89-38 .701 2 conf. 6-3
    Barry Alvarez built something out of nothing at Madison. Nice bookends: After consecutive Rose Bowl victories in the 1998 and 1999 seasons, the Badgers went 12-1 last season under first-year coach Bret Bielema.

    15 Auburn 84-40 .677 1 conf. 5-3
    Auburn spotted the field a two-year head start in this decade, but after that, wow: undefeated in 2004, 33-5 over the last three seasons and a record-tying five straight victories over archrival Alabama.

    16 Boise State 97-28 .776 7 conf. 5-2
    Texas is the only team to win more games than the Broncos in the last 10 years. Boise State beat Oklahoma, the other Big 12 South power, in the 2007 Fiesta Bowl. That game gave hope to have-nots everywhere. Boise State attempts to win its sixth straight WAC championship this season.

    17 Oregon 82-40 .672 2 conf. 4-5
    Mike Bellotti built upon the foundation that Rich Brooks set in Eugene, making the Ducks a perennial contender in the Pac-10. Add to that facilities the equal of any in the nation, and you have a top program.

    18 Louisville 83-40 .675 4 conf. 3-6
    No program has come further in this decade than the Cardinals, who began as a Division I-A have-not and finished as the champion and the anchor of the Big East.

    19 West Virginia 76-45 .628 3 conf. 3-5
    The Mountaineers tailed off at the end of the Don Nehlen Era, but former WVU player Rich Rodriguez quickly rebuilt the program. West Virginia always has been known for its devoted fans. Now it's known for its unique -- and explosive -- offense.

    20 Kansas State 88-38 .698 1 conf. 4-4
    Who could imagine Kansas State rebuilding? Bill Snyder turned the ne'er-do-wells into a Big 12 powerhouse, peaking with three North titles and the 2003 conference championship. Ron Prince is the rebuilder, but in facilities Snyder made possible before retiring in 2005.

    21 Penn State 74-47 .612 1 conf. 4-2
    Joe Paterno may be ancient, but the Nittany Lions have been as mercurial as a teenager. Plenty of downs and some big ups (the 2005 Big Ten conference championship). And the fans, all six figures worth, continue to fill Beaver Stadium.

    22 Boston College 76-45 .628 1 conf. 7-1
    Tom O'Brien turned the Eagles into a consistent winner, but they rank this high for what they did off the field. Moving from the Big East to the ACC solidified the program economically. The competitive consequences will be interesting to watch.

    23 Notre Dame 75-47 .615 0 0-7
    The Irish have endured their rockiest decade since the pre-Ara Parseghian years: two fired coaches, no national championship contenders, and who could believe they would go a decade without winning a bowl game? However, love or hate, the Irish remain America's Team.

    24 TCU 80-40 .667 4 conf. 5-3
    The Horned Frogs have come a long way: moving from the WAC to Conference USA to the Mountain West and thriving in all three. Despite playing in a league without a guaranteed BCS berth, Gary Patterson has turned TCU into a perennial threat to grab one.

    25 Iowa 65-56 .537 2 conf. 3-4
    Kirk Ferentz has molded the Hawkeyes into a reflection of their fans: hardworking and straightforward. From the depths of the end of the Hayden Fry Era, the Hawkeyes won a share of two Big Ten championships and have played in bowls for six consecutive seasons.



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    Re: Top 25 College Football Programs

    I agree with the ESPN list as well. As much as we hate to think it, Iowa deserves to be in the top 25. Nowhere close to top 10 though.



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    Re: Top 25 College Football Programs

    I think the two lists are looking at two different time periods. Jeremy is referring to top football programs. The ESPN list is looking at top programs in the last decade.

    Big difference.



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    Re: Top 25 College Football Programs

    I'm thinking recent as 2000 on here. So this might have alittle different look..



    25. UCLA
    24. Kansas State-- Coference Title 2003. What a fun team to watch.
    23. Iowa --- Sorry they did have a good run in there.
    22. Notre Dame-- Make Bowl games but can't beat the Big Boys
    21. Nebraska--Shouldn't be this high but oh well
    20. TCU/Penn State
    19. Penn State/TCU
    18. Oregon
    17. West Virginia
    16. Louisville.. extremely fun to watch
    15. Boise State (if not higher, too bad they don't play bigger teams)
    14. Florida State... Not much to cheer about lately.
    13. VT... ???
    12. Tennessee
    11. Wisconson
    10. Georgia
    9. Miami... Did have some good teams a few years back... My how they are falling.
    8. Auburn... Undefeated in 04??
    7. LSU... Faired better then Iowa since the miracle catch
    6. Michigan.... Will fall after this year
    5. Oklahoma..
    4. Florida.... Texas could be moved here too
    3. Texas... Florida could be here too
    2. Ohio State
    1. USC... No team has more successful lately.

    Ok... That took forever.


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    Re: Top 25 College Football Programs

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUFan22 View Post
    I think the two lists are looking at two different time periods. Jeremy is referring to top football programs. The ESPN list is looking at top programs in the last decade.

    Big difference.
    If this is the case, then Kansas Sate, West Virginia, Wisconsin, and Virginia Tech should not be on the list - most of the success for these teams started in the mid-90's (give or take a few years).

    To replace them, I'd probably put in Arkansas, Army (who had success until the 80's), Minnesota (very dominant pre-70's), and Michigan State (who had a lot of success pre-80's)

    Wisconsin and Virgina Tech were dismal before the 90's - and hadn't been any good for quite some time. Kansas State was good from about the late 80's through the early 200's, but has dropped off since then, and was a doormat.

    West Virginia, IMO, could be switched with Texas Tech - as both teams are consistently decent, but nothing to be super proud of (except for WVU as of late).


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    Re: Top 25 College Football Programs

    I definitely should have been more clear, I was basing it on a combination of success and "prestige". One could argue that Notre Dame hasn't had a ton of success over the past decade but they're still one of the most prestigious schools, same for Penn State.


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    Re: Top 25 College Football Programs

    Yeah, the key word is past. About 1/3rd of those teams are not considered "prestige" programs right now.

    Who have teams like ND, Texas Tech, A&M, Pitt and K-State beat lately? For that matter, toss in Nebraska, Miami and Alabama.



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    Re: Top 25 College Football Programs

    Well, if you're a recruit that thinks they're a stud, would you rather go to Nebraska, Notre Dame or somebody not on that list? I tried to form it based on elimination. Obviously you probably want to go to a storied program that's on top or one that has a great past that has a bright future. I'd say Iowa doesn't have the prestige of probably 25 other schools and although they've had success in the Big Ten the past several years, that hasn't turned into the big national honor that the IA fans would like everybody to believe.

    I honestly don't see Iowa as anything higher than probably 25-30th place as the most desirable school for top recruits. They have success but it hasn't been against incredible opponents every week and it hasn't been with such great hype that they've competed for the number one or two bowls. They had a nice run that ISU fans would love to have but I don't think college football fans across the country think as highly of the IA program as IA fans would like to think.

    That list, top to bottom, is a list of schools that have all-time records in the top 35 of all of college football and have had success in the past two decades. Iowa fans could argue that they should be in the 22-25 spot but in my personal opinion, they are a few years away from that prize.


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    Re: Top 25 College Football Programs

    7. Nebraska
    8. Oklahoma

    OU has way more tradition than Nebraska. Nebraska Came on in the late 60's. OU has been doing it since the 40's.



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