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    Aggy spin and the LHN

    Many people are SHOCKED by the Spadilly FOIA request and are taking what the commentary says at face value. They aren't questioning how these conclusions are reached, they are just running with them.

    Most of it comes from The Midnight Yell

    They run a commentary I find very misleading.

    Example: "This contract prohibits UT from appearing on a league network"

    Lets analyze the contract basis and the claim:

    Aggy said:
    Quote Originally Posted by Aggy
    However, the University of Texas and IMG has agreed that no content featuring Texas would be made available to that conference network and would violate the agreement with ESPN. The other nine conference members would have to put together a network without Texas and it's content.
    Dead wrong IMO when you look at the part of the contract they actually cite for it.



    i- This can be summed up, don't put another LHN together while we are working with you. Like many things in the legal world, they have to write things with zero wiggle room based on centuries of people being dishonest and hiring lawyers for cases with no legs to stand on.

    ii- License any network content to any 3rd party- The content we have bought (UT tier 3 home games) can't be licensed elsewhere. Says nothing about road games which is what a B12 network or Boomer network would use.

    iii- Last chance for them to be right.... and they aren't. It's just a loose writing of things to cover loopholes.

    So the blog decided that "don't sell your home tier 3 content to anyone else" means "you can't appear on another branded network!"

    Lets quickly evaluate what else they commented on.

    - UT must get 2 football games!: They only acknowledged a desire to do so. Still subject to B12 & NCAA rules and also the minimum outlined was 1 game. Not accurate at all.

    -UT was lying when they said they didn't know ESPN was moving forward with a 2nd league game:
    Looks bad but plausible because...

    Any decision to broadcast more than two games is subject to mutual decision. Not two, more than two.

    I guess this also makes void Chip Brown and the Longhorn's spin that "Texas had no idea what ESPN was doing, it was their fault". It's not ESPN alone when there is a "mutual desire" is it?
    “This was ESPN acting on its own,” one high-ranking administrator in the Big 12 said. “I don’t think Texas even knew where ESPN was in the process of trying to get this conference game secured. DeLoss Dodds has been very open and forthcoming with all the schools in the Big 12.
    It is saying they did not know they were trying to secure it at the time. UT could have been waiting to go about it a different way. Shady but plausible. Definitely the most disturbing thing when you look at it objectively.

    -UT going after road game content:
    If that isn't unsettling, ESPN and the University of Texas is also in an agreement to get live sporting events when the Longhorns play AWAY from home and say in Norman or Stillwater.
    Vague terminology just stipulates they try if it is available. The Big 12 already dealt with it anyway.

    The phrase "reasonable best efforts" is still subject to B12 & NCAA rules. Yawn.


    - B12 championships, extra league games, and extra HS games: "Reasonable best efforts" is vague and completely subject to both parties acting within Big 12 and NCAA rules... again. Each entity will have a say in the HS game issue and the Big 12 already handles the Big 12 game issue and will likely handle B12 championship for smaller sport issues in the same way. Pay us Fort Knox or we don't sign off.

    -Indy right of first refusal: Taking this to mean UT is going indy is like saying a life insurance policy is written with the intent of dying soon. It is nothing more than covering the bases in a world where TCU is in the Big East after being in the Mountain West. Preparing for anything, in other words.

    - The Agreement will live on if UT leaves the conference: ESPN holding on to what they are currently buying. It would be stupid not to have this clause.

    -Hire & fire clause: This is a provision to be able to remove a subpar or racist or otherwise offensive employee should UT & ESPN not see eye to eye. The coverage will be favorable already and the media storm (think CBS & Fox would like to give that personality face time in an interview?) will likely keep that in check. Even if it doesn't it's a source you expect bias from. Nobody expects Rush Limbaugh or Keith Olbermann to be moderate and people will likely consider the source.

    -Videos to benefit UT: Not a huge deal as watching the LHN is already slanting UT like the B10 network does it's schools. I think this is probably just ESPN locking out competitors from doing UT athletics documentaries but admittedly this is an area I am less sure about than the rest.

    -Out clauses. UT has already carved out the minimum # of events. Pretty understandable that ESPN would end it if the content they put as a minimum is not there.

    So a ton of sizzle but no real steak. UT looks shady at the "ESPN did this without us" part but it is at least plausible. The UT cannot appear on a B12 network is BS and everything else is pretty much expected but has to stay within B12 & NCAA rules. Nothing more damaging than what was previously reported IMO. However the spin is everywhere.



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    Re: Aggy spin and the LHN

    So what is new? Fans/media of a certain team are trying to spin things around to make it look like the end of the world (conference) just so they have something to ***** and moan about.

    I'm sure there will be plenty of talk on this once again, even though it doesn't bring too much new to light. How didn't anyone think that there was a clause saying that they should try to get as many games as possible? There is probably a similar clause in every contract, you still have to do it within the lines of the NCAA/Big 12 and other contracts already in place. It changes nothing to the affect that they already expressed that want and would still have to do so by paying the other team and the other team agreeing to it, let alone the conference and other 1st/2nd tier TV contracts having their choice as well before the LHN has anything to say about it.

    Great summary though Sammy, care to post that on the Aggie board?!?



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    Re: Aggy spin and the LHN

    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy11 View Post
    Most of it comes from The Midnight Yell

    They run a commentary I find very misleading.
    Of course they do. Aggie fans want to be in the SEC. But they don't really want A&M to just up and leave the Big 12, because they think it will make them look like the bad guy. So they pump out misleading propaganda in hopes of instigating some kind of Big 12 collapse.


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    Re: Aggy spin and the LHN

    Starting a new thread was necessary because..........what you have to say is so much more brilliant than what everyone else had to say on the same topic in an existing thread?????



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    Re: Aggy spin and the LHN

    I read "The Midnight Yell" column before reading your commentary Sammy, and I came to the exact same conclusions, particularly that the only thing concerning in there is that Texas lied about the 2nd conference game.

    The Aggies are just looking to interpret the contract to make UT look as bad as possible.



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    Re: Aggy spin and the LHN

    Quote Originally Posted by jbhtexas View Post
    Of course they do. Aggie fans want to be in the SEC. But they don't really want A&M to just up and leave the Big 12, because they think it will make them look like the bad guy. So they pump out misleading propaganda in hopes of instigating some kind of Big 12 collapse.
    Agree. The weekly Aggie BS coming from sites like Midnight Yell and AggieYell is becoming tiresome and has little, if any merit.

    I'm sure they will come up with something new again next week. This week its the LHN contract language. Last week it was UT trying to screw over the B12 with LHN showing HS games and a conference game that Big12 ADs immediately nipped in the bud much to the chagrin of wussy Aggies pining for the SEC. Maybe next week, they'll determine that DeLoss Dodds has Nazi ties in his past.



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    Re: Aggy spin and the LHN

    Here is a good attack on the brain-dead Midnight Yell writers:

    Texas’ Contract with ESPN for the Longhorn Network «



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    Re: Aggy spin and the LHN

    Quote Originally Posted by cykadelic2 View Post
    Here is a good attack on the brain-dead Midnight Yell writers:

    Texas’ Contract with ESPN for the Longhorn Network «
    Along with a bunch of paranoid, equally-brain dead responses. From R. Johnson:

    While I appreciate your “legal” view, I do disagree with much that you have said. You have to live in Texas and have experienced “them” for a time before the clear intent is revealed. I am sorry you cannot see what “the intent” truly is.
    and from Steve from Cow Bayou

    You did a legal analysis, but there’s a conference “partner” analysis at play here, too: It’s not about the contract, it’s about how UT has mishandled it and misled the Big XII …
    Just like you said above, now that the Aggie uproar over the contract has been debunked, the contract doesn't really matter any more. It's now about being a "partner" with the rest of the conference. Laughable. Hey Aggie, give back the $20 million bribe to you took to stay put in the Big 12, and then maybe we can talk about what it means to be a "partner".


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    Re: Aggy spin and the LHN

    Quote Originally Posted by jbhtexas View Post
    Along with a bunch of paranoid, equally-brain dead responses. From R. Johnson:



    and from Steve from Cow Bayou



    Just like you said above, now that the Aggie uproar over the contract has been debunked, the contract doesn't really matter any more. It's now about being a "partner" with the rest of the conference.
    So true. A&M is hilarious sometimes.



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