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    Is Chizik too loyal for his own good?

    Let me begin by saying that I believe in Chizik and what he's trying to build. In 4-5 years, I think ISU will finally get over the hump and win the Big 12 North.

    However, I'm starting to wonder about some of the man's choices for assistant coaches. Does anyone else think he's sacrificed top-tier coaches to hire his friends? Chizik, McFarland, Bolt and Farrar go way back. While it's essential for a head coach to trust his assistants, it's possible that Chizik has promoted his friends over people who are more qualified for the job.

    If this is true, it's a bad sign for ISU football. I'd like to think that if McFarland's offense isn't working (several players have hinted that it's too conservative), Chizik can fire him and replace him with someone better. Unfortunately, it's pretty hard to fire someone you've known for 25 years.

    Again, note that this is pure speculation on my part. This is just a theory that I wanted to toss out to stir up some debate on a boring Monday morning.



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    Re: Is Chizik too loyal for his own good?

    I've been wondering this as well. Every important hire he made in the off-season was a friend Chizik formerly coached with at some point.

    Also, no assistants from UT was disappointing (we did get a grad student or something, big whoop).





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    Re: Is Chizik too loyal for his own good?

    2 games. This NEW staff has now coached 2 games together. 2 f'ing games and stuff like this is being discussed.

    Message boards + losses = irrational thoughts



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    Re: Is Chizik too loyal for his own good?

    It's very, very unfair to make much, if any kind of assessment about the assistants at this point, just as it is with the head coach.

    Good grief...

    Just because our last coach was loyal to a fault, lets not automatically assume the new one is, especially 2 games into his first season.



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    Re: Is Chizik too loyal for his own good?

    McFarland had success for a hopeless program down in Texas after only a year. I think it's more of a personnel issue right now. We'll see where things go this year though.

    However, if the time comes where an assistant would need to be fired, I can't say for sure what Gene would do. If his personality towards coaches is anything like players than I'm not worried. Step up or Step Aside.

    This might have ultimately been the downfall of Dan McCarney. I don't think Pollard will allow Gene to fall into a similar syndrome.



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    Re: Is Chizik too loyal for his own good?

    Wow, just wow.



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    Re: Is Chizik too loyal for his own good?

    This is the way nearly all coaches hire their assistants.



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    Re: Is Chizik too loyal for his own good?

    Quote Originally Posted by cycloneworld View Post
    2 games. This NEW staff has now coached 2 games together. 2 f'ing games and stuff like this is being discussed.

    Message boards + losses = irrational thoughts

    I will second this post.... What are you people thinking?? Give it time...


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    Re: Is Chizik too loyal for his own good?

    I can absolutely not believe some of the stuff being discussed on this message board right now. The people that are the most upset are the ones that had delusions of grandeur for a new coach on the job for something like 9 or 10 months now and has maybe 3 guys on his team that would play for another Big 12 school. You people who are upset now, wait until the conference play starts. You think Stoops is going to go easy on the school who fired his buddy and hired an assistant from his biggest rival?


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    Re: Is Chizik too loyal for his own good?

    YOU GUYS need to relax a bit and enjoy the football season. If Chizik and Company aka McFarland & Bolt don't get to a bowl game after the 4th year ...Jamie will step up and fire them all.


    Jamie Pollard on Dan McCarney..."If I were the athletic director there wouldn't have been a 5th year for Dan."


    That sez it all and Jamie is right....


    ENJOY THE SEASON...AND THATS AN ORDER...



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    Re: Is Chizik too loyal for his own good?

    "2 games. This NEW staff has now coached 2 games together. 2 f'ing games and stuff like this is being discussed.

    Message boards + losses = irrational thoughts"

    Exactly. Very well said. People apparently don't understand the complexity of rebuilding a team from nothing. At least when Coach Mac came he had a decent group of Olineman as well as Troy Davis to work with.



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    Re: Is Chizik too loyal for his own good?

    Quote Originally Posted by CyBobby View Post
    Jamie Pollard on Dan McCarney..."If I were the athletic director there wouldn't have been a 5th year for Dan."
    You got a source for that? That doesn't seem like something JP would say -- or perhaps it's taken out of context. JP seems much too policitally savvy to say something quite that disparaging.


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    Re: Is Chizik too loyal for his own good?

    Alright, got my answer. People vote no overwhelmingly.



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    Re: Is Chizik too loyal for his own good?

    That's not the answer either.

    It's "no one knows" because we're just 2 damn games into the first season.

    As another poster said earlier, judging how he deals with players not performing - I feel confident he would make the necessary change with his staff too.

    But again, the jury is still out.



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    Re: Is Chizik too loyal for his own good?

    Quote Originally Posted by sdillon500 View Post
    Let me begin by saying that I believe in Chizik and what he's trying to build. In 4-5 years, I think ISU will finally get over the hump and win the Big 12 North.

    However, I'm starting to wonder about some of the man's choices for assistant coaches. Does anyone else think he's sacrificed top-tier coaches to hire his friends? Chizik, McFarland, Bolt and Farrar go way back. While it's essential for a head coach to trust his assistants, it's possible that Chizik has promoted his friends over people who are more qualified for the job.

    If this is true, it's a bad sign for ISU football. I'd like to think that if McFarland's offense isn't working (several players have hinted that it's too conservative), Chizik can fire him and replace him with someone better. Unfortunately, it's pretty hard to fire someone you've known for 25 years.

    Again, note that this is pure speculation on my part. This is just a theory that I wanted to toss out to stir up some debate on a boring Monday morning.
    Yeah, I totally agree with you. I have no clue why Chizik passed on Charlie Weis to run the offense and Tony Dungy to the run the defense. When those 2 were begging for a job and Chizik turned them down, I couldn't believe it.

    Back to reality, how do you know that Chizik will have any trouble firing people he's coached with? There is no basis in fact at all. I have no clue why you are even discussing this. Do you want a head coach to fire his assistants after every bad 2 game stretch?



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