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    Today I learned about dead bodies on Mt. Everest

    There are over 200 dead bodies on Mt. Everest that climbers use as landmarks. Most of them are perfectly preserved.

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    Re: Today I learned about dead bodies on Mt. Everest

    I'd use it as motivation as opposed to a landmark.



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    Re: Today I learned about dead bodies on Mt. Everest

    Quote Originally Posted by Cydkar View Post
    I'd use it as motivation as opposed to a landmark.

    Rep for you, that made me laugh.


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    Re: Today I learned about dead bodies on Mt. Everest

    You didn't know about that? A lot of those people were left behind by their own parties, and parties that passed them when they were still alive. But because everybody is so driven to reach the summit, they leave these people to die, often alone.

    It used to be that only a small number of experienced climbers would climb the mountain, so that unless it was too dangerous to mount a rescue, no person would be left behind. But now? It's so commercialized, that you have inexperienced people who want to reach the summit, because it's something they've paid tens of thousands of dollars to do.



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    Re: Today I learned about dead bodies on Mt. Everest

    Quote Originally Posted by cyfan964 View Post
    There are over 200 dead bodies on Mt. Everest that climbers use as landmarks. Most of them are perfectly preserved.

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    Interesting!

    I think the real question is why were you on a body building website?


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    Re: Today I learned about dead bodies on Mt. Everest

    Quote Originally Posted by edr247 View Post
    You didn't know about that? A lot of those people were left behind by their own parties, and parties that passed them when they were still alive. But because everybody is so driven to reach the summit, they leave these people to die, often alone.

    It used to be that only a small number of experienced climbers would climb the mountain, so that unless it was too dangerous to mount a rescue, no person would be left behind. But now? It's so commercialized, that you have inexperienced people who want to reach the summit, because it's something they've paid tens of thousands of dollars to do.
    Actually, it is not lack of compassion, it is the simple fact that if you try to help in your oxygen starved and weakened state two people die instead of one. The same was true when it was just experienced climbers.



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    Re: Today I learned about dead bodies on Mt. Everest

    Quote Originally Posted by rebecacy View Post
    Actually, it is not lack of compassion, it is the simple fact that if you try to help in your oxygen starved and weakened state two people die instead of one. The same was true when it was just experienced climbers.

    Exactly.



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    Re: Today I learned about dead bodies on Mt. Everest

    Quote Originally Posted by rebecacy View Post
    Actually, it is not lack of compassion, it is the simple fact that if you try to help in your oxygen starved and weakened state two people die instead of one. The same was true when it was just experienced climbers.
    No, I agree about the risks involved with the rescue. For example, I think one guy, who was able to walk but was so delirious that he needed to be anchored down to prevent him from jumping off the mountain, needed 15 Sherpas to bring him down (presumably to Base Camp). Another climber, Sharp, who's death led to a lot of media attention, was essentially frozen solid. Bringing him down would have required a lot of people and a lot of supplies. (It should be noted, though, that Sharp and a few other self-guided climbers died on that same day, IIRC).

    However, at the same time, some 50 people passed Sharp going up to the summit and coming back down, when he was dying over something like a day. There was also a 30-person expedition in the immediate area, with support below. A few from the party stopped, a couple even wanted to help, but were told to leave him. Meanwhile, one of the groups guides was given the okay to summit, even while there were various catastrophes occurring in the area. When Sir Edmund Hillary finds the current state of mountain climbing troubling, you know it isn't just media overreaction.

    Obviously, you have to make tough choices in these situations, where on the climb down, you yourself are exhausted, hypothermic and oxygen deprived. However, what about on the climb up? Should the drive to the summit supercede everything else? (Honest question)



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    Re: Today I learned about dead bodies on Mt. Everest

    Quote Originally Posted by rebecacy View Post
    Actually, it is not lack of compassion, it is the simple fact that if you try to help in your oxygen starved and weakened state two people die instead of one. The same was true when it was just experienced climbers.
    Yes, what you are saying is true to an extent. I instruct my firefighter to never take off their air packs in a burning building, not even to share a breath with another firefighter. How do you rescue someone when you yourself needs to be rescued?

    On the other hand. If one man has issues on the way up, should the others continue? Shouldn't they try to help him back down? A firefighter who goes in to put out a fire, comes across a victim does leave the victim to fight the fire, he helps the victim get out. You don't have to share o2, but there is no reason they can't try to help. If it happens on the way down that might be a different story, but you don't hear about people not making it back down the hill, it is always up.



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    Re: Today I learned about dead bodies on Mt. Everest

    So do they give you a map with instructions like "take a left at the body with the red parka"?
    Or maybe "if you see the dead guy in the blue parka you're going the wrong way"?


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    Re: Today I learned about dead bodies on Mt. Everest

    I honestly had never heard of this. Pretty interesting.



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    Re: Today I learned about dead bodies on Mt. Everest

    wonder how many people are on the mountain at one time on average. Are there any American sherpas?



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    Re: Today I learned about dead bodies on Mt. Everest

    A great book about Everest, mountain climbing (and it's perils) is Jon Krakauer's "Touching the Void".

    Edit: As CyBroncos (among others) points out below, the book is "into Thin Air". "Touching the Void" is a decent mountain climbing movie, though.


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    Re: Today I learned about dead bodies on Mt. Everest

    Much like every topic every thought of, this has been discussed on CF before. Follow the link, and there is another interesting article about it.

    http://www.cyclonefanatic.com/forum/...d-everest.html



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    Re: Today I learned about dead bodies on Mt. Everest

    Attempting to climb Mt. Everest is truly putting your life on the line...it's a gamble. K2 is even more of a killer mountain because it's more difficult to summit.

    If you want to read a good book about how disastrous things can get on Everest...read "Into Thin Air" by Jon Krakauer. He was there in 1996 when storms wreaked havoc on climbing groups and killed many people. He gives a first hand behind the scenes account. Scary stuff


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