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    ISU Stoplight camera study.

    I just got this link in the Engineering Alumni e-news letter. Betrayed by my own kind!


    'A few years ago, Iowa State studied "The Effectiveness of Iowa's Automated Red Light Running Enforcement Programs."

    And how effective are they, especially when it comes to reducing accidents?

    On Wednesday, the day the Des Moines Police Department called a news conference to say cameras would go live on designated city thoroughfares by the end of the work week, Shauna Hallmark, a university transportation engineer, needed two words to answer the question.
    "Very effective," she said from Ames'

    Hansen: Stoplight cameras improve safety, ISU finds | The Des Moines Register | DesMoinesRegister.com



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    Re: ISU Stoplight camera study.

    Dont tell dmclone that! He would probably give up his fanhood is his honor of his fight against the "safety" of traffic cameras.



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    Re: ISU Stoplight camera study.

    High cost causes people to think a bit about their actions, who woulda thunk.



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    Re: ISU Stoplight camera study.

    Quote Originally Posted by flycy View Post
    I just got this link in the Engineering Alumni e-news letter. Betrayed by my own kind!


    'A few years ago, Iowa State studied "The Effectiveness of Iowa's Automated Red Light Running Enforcement Programs."

    And how effective are they, especially when it comes to reducing accidents?

    On Wednesday, the day the Des Moines Police Department called a news conference to say cameras would go live on designated city thoroughfares by the end of the work week, Shauna Hallmark, a university transportation engineer, needed two words to answer the question.
    "Very effective," she said from Ames'

    Hansen: Stoplight cameras improve safety, ISU finds | The Des Moines Register | DesMoinesRegister.com


    I hear Iowa State has a slanted opinion, can't trust that information.



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    Re: ISU Stoplight camera study.

    They are especially effective in reducing "T-bone" accidents, where one motorist runs a red light and hits the side of a car head on. These are obviously very dangerous accidents that often result in injuries and fatalities. In my opinion, reducing major accidents should always be the goal, even if they increase the frequency of minor accidents (which some studies have shown red light cams do, because of people rear-ending each other when they stop quickly) because fender-benders aren't a big deal, dents can be fixed, that's what insurance is for.



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    Re: ISU Stoplight camera study.

    I've been bitten twice by the cameras in Council Bluffs over the past couple of years. (I think it was my wife both times) I didn't like it, but if you do the crime you should be willing to face the consequences.



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    Re: ISU Stoplight camera study.

    And if the tickets were just for the flagrant offenders that blow through a red, most wouldnt have a problem. The problem is that for every 1 person you catch doing that, you ticket 100 who just didnt come to an unneeded complete stop on a right turn or just barely missed the light by overestimating the yellow length.



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    Re: ISU Stoplight camera study.

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    Re: ISU Stoplight camera study.

    Quote Originally Posted by pyrocyz View Post
    I hear Iowa State has a slanted opinion, can't trust that information.

    You're right, they are probably getting a cut. I'll bet they are using all that extra income to lower tuition like I've heard so much about.



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    Re: ISU Stoplight camera study.

    The problem is that for every 1 person you catch doing that, you ticket 100 who just didnt come to an unneeded complete stop on a right turn or just barely missed the light by overestimating the yellow length.
    I'm not seeing the problem here.



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    Re: ISU Stoplight camera study.

    Quote Originally Posted by 3TrueFans View Post
    I'm not seeing the problem here.
    Making a ******** of money off of those that werent dangers to traffic at all, and would almost never be pulled over by a real officer? You dont see the problem with that?



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    Re: ISU Stoplight camera study.

    Quote Originally Posted by alarson View Post
    Making a ******** of money off of those that werent dangers to traffic at all, and would almost never be pulled over by a real officer? You dont see the problem with that?
    Did you even bother to read the article? It said that tickets aren't issued if the officer(s) reviewing the tape wouldn't issue the ticket if they were there in person.


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    Re: ISU Stoplight camera study.

    Quote Originally Posted by alarson View Post
    Making a ******** of money off of those that werent dangers to traffic at all, and would almost never be pulled over by a real officer? You dont see the problem with that?

    I experienced this earlier this week. I was pulled over on Duff and I was only going 30 mph... The officer then proceeded to give me a 127 dollar seatbelt ticket. I work on Duff and also live on Duff and it is literally a 1 min drive. I explained this to him but he still gave me a ticket. Honestly, I woulda thought he had something more worthwhile than giving somebody a seatbelt ticket going 30 mph


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    Re: ISU Stoplight camera study.

    Quote Originally Posted by cloneswereall View Post
    Did you even bother to read the article? It said that tickets aren't issued if the officer(s) reviewing the tape wouldn't issue the ticket if they were there in person.
    But but but, its easier to get mad. Heaven forbid people just slow down a bit and prepare to stop near a traffic light.



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    Re: ISU Stoplight camera study.

    Quote Originally Posted by CP44 View Post
    I experienced this earlier this week. I was pulled over on Duff and I was only going 30 mph... The officer then proceeded to give me a 127 dollar seatbelt ticket. I work on Duff and also live on Duff and it is literally a 1 min drive. I explained this to him but he still gave me a ticket. Honestly, I woulda thought he had something more worthwhile than giving somebody a seatbelt ticket going 30 mph
    You broke the law didn't you?


    I'll await your explanation to how, even if only a short distance, it's excusable to break the law.



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