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    Mangino model for Iowa State...Offense!

    If Iowa State is going to jump to the next level in football, it will probably have to follow the Mangino model at KU. Here are KU's records enroute to their successful seasons in football:

    2004.....4-8
    2005.....7-5
    2006.....6-6
    2007.....11-1
    2008.....8-4
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    They did it with Todd Reising and a prolific offense. In 2007 here are their scores:
    52-7
    62-0
    45-13
    55-3
    30-24
    58-10
    19-14
    19-11
    76-39
    43-28
    45-7
    36-28
    24-21
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    K State did the same thing when they had their best years. For Iowa State to win a lot of games, we need a lot of scoring, pure and simple. The key seems to be:
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    -Win with passes
    -Prolific Quarterback who can win with his arm
    -Wide open offense
    -High scoring
    (And don't be afraid to run up scores when you have the opportunity, to keep your offense sharp)



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    Re: Mangino model for Iowa State...Offense!

    I disagree. While our offense needs to improve, it looks to me like the future of the defense has some promise. Besides that, Kansas wasn't a bad defensive football team.


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    Re: Mangino model for Iowa State...Offense!

    I'd much rather that we follow the CPR model.

    At the very least, if we have to follow a B12 "model", the Missouri model, rather than the Munchino model.




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    Re: Mangino model for Iowa State...Offense!

    There is no doubt that ISU needs to greatly improve on the offensive side of the ball. GREATLY! With that said, I think Mangino is one of the great offensive minds in college football. I think OU took a hit when he left and I think KU was great beacuase of him. I have no issue following that model.

    Don't forget that KU also had some pretty solid defenses. They put quite few DL inthe NFL fom those teams.


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    Re: Mangino model for Iowa State...Offense!

    Kansas' success was pretty hollow. Wham bam, back to the bottom. See ISU basketball under Larry E. I'd rather see ISU on a slower, more solid climb to program stability. The W-L takes care of itself if the program is built stable and solid.



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    Re: Mangino model for Iowa State...Offense!

    If ISU doesn't bust out of its offensive funk in 2011, I'd be all for hiring Mangino as OC.



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    Re: Mangino model for Iowa State...Offense!

    I think he means that we should all be drunk and belligerent. Go to high school games and scream our bloody heads off. Oh, and eat 50 hot wings for dinner... lots of protein to keep up our strength.



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    Re: Mangino model for Iowa State...Offense!

    Quote Originally Posted by Frak View Post
    If ISU doesn't bust out of its offensive funk in 2011, I'd be all for hiring Mangino as OC.
    I would cream myself if this happened. You know he'd LOVE to stick it to KU once a year.


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    Re: Mangino model for Iowa State...Offense!

    jayhawks defense was pretty good as well.



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    Re: Mangino model for Iowa State...Offense!

    Quote Originally Posted by Frak View Post
    If ISU doesn't bust out of its offensive funk in 2011, I'd be all for hiring Mangino as OC.
    Quote Originally Posted by Al_4_State View Post
    I would cream myself if this happened. You know he'd LOVE to stick it to KU once a year.
    I hope we don't have to consider it. I hope Herman shows progress this year.

    However, if we did have to get a new OC then Mangino would be my top candidate


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    Re: Mangino model for Iowa State...Offense!

    I agree I would hire Mark Mangino over tom hermann in a new york minute, anyone who can win at Kansas can win anywhere and I do mean anywhere.


    Anyone besides me want to win 11 games in a single season???



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    Re: Mangino model for Iowa State...Offense!

    Quote Originally Posted by CyBobby View Post


    Anyone besides me want to win 11 games in a single season???
    Nope, you're all by yourself on that one.



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    Re: Mangino model for Iowa State...Offense!

    I don't want to win more than 10 games. Any more than that just seems like showing off.



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    Re: Mangino model for Iowa State...Offense!

    Kansas' offense was filthy in 2007, but keep in mind, they didn't have to play OU or Texas that year. And didn't face a team ranked in the top 20 until they lost to Mizzou at the end of the year.

    They feasted on poor defenses--ISU was brutal that year. Baylor was awful and Nebraska was in complete free-fall with Bill Callahan.

    I give them credit for lighting up those teams, but the numbers were inflated by inferior competition and ended up not being sustainable.

    That's why the "new" Big 12 will be so interesting...everyone will get a true measure of where they stand and won't be able to blame a schedule advantage.


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    Re: Mangino model for Iowa State...Offense!

    #1 way to succeed: Staff continuity.

    Look at Iowa, Oklahoma, Texas, Virginia Tech, etc. Every school, regardless of size and prestige, needs to have continuity to stay consistent on the field. You can argue that a team or two on that list is a disappointment (looking at your Virginia Tech) but those disappointments are by their standards and not ours. Virginia Tech is still pulling out 8 wins a season, which is something we would kill for.



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