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    Maybe ISU needs to start cheating

    I say that with a really scary amount of seriousness. I wish I was being sarcastic about this. But, as it turns out, schools that are penalized by the NCAA for cheating end up doing BETTER after the sanctions!

    How do such powerhouse football programs ultimately fare after major NCAA sanctions? Are some simply too big to fail?


    Recent cases suggest that. The Miami Hurricanes, hit with NCAA penalties for lack of institutional control in 1995, won the 2001 national title. And Alabama, sanctioned in 2002, won it in 2009.


    A 2007 study by Chad McEvoy, an associate professor of sport management at Illinois State, found that the five-year winning percentages of 35 teams sanctioned over a 15-year period ending in 2002 actually rose, from .547 to .566 in the five years after they were penalized by the NCAA.
    Even among 10 schools hit with what were considered the most serious sanctions, the winning percentage dipped only slightly, from .634 to .614.
    Are Ohio State, USC too big to be hurt by NCAA penalties? - USATODAY.com



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    Re: Maybe ISU needs to start cheating

    Then the NCAA needs to have harsher penalties. I mean schools should not be rewarded for cheating. The win when the cheat and the win in the aftermath. Why not cheat then?



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    Re: Maybe ISU needs to start cheating

    ISU does not have the money or boosters to cheat with the top programs. Those other schools can cheat because of the money they get from boosters and alumni.



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    Re: Maybe ISU needs to start cheating

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugs4ISU View Post
    I say that with a really scary amount of seriousness. I wish I was being sarcastic about this. But, as it turns out, schools that are penalized by the NCAA for cheating end up doing BETTER after the sanctions!



    Are Ohio State, USC too big to be hurt by NCAA penalties? - USATODAY.com

    Who says we aren't already cheating?



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    Re: Maybe ISU needs to start cheating

    3 words:

    "Honor Before Victory"


    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisMWilliams View Post
    I agree. We didn't choose Iowa State because it is easy. We chose Iowa State because it is awesome.
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    So frickin jealous of what they have in Ames. It's truly amazing what Fred has done coming in with 0 coaching experience.

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    Re: Maybe ISU needs to start cheating

    I'm not an ISU fan because they do good in sports. I'm an ISU fan because ISU is a big part of who I am. Because of that, I'd rather see them lose cleanly than to win cheating. I'd love see them become a reliably good team in Football and Basketball, but not if it takes cheating. If that's the case, I'd rather have them win in the FCS division.



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    Re: Maybe ISU needs to start cheating

    Honor Before Victory. We had a player die for honor, not cheating.

    Choose what you want.



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    Re: Maybe ISU needs to start cheating

    Quote Originally Posted by GMackey32 View Post
    3 words:

    "Honor Before Victory"
    This.



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    Re: Maybe ISU needs to start cheating

    This is a terrible thread.



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    Re: Maybe ISU needs to start cheating

    Quote Originally Posted by GMackey32 View Post
    3 words:

    "Honor Before Victory"
    And this kind of attitude is why ISU will never win a championship.



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    Re: Maybe ISU needs to start cheating

    Quote Originally Posted by 00clone View Post
    I'm not an ISU fan because they do good in sports. I'm an ISU fan because ISU is a big part of who I am. Because of that, I'd rather see them lose cleanly than to win cheating. I'd love see them become a reliably good team in Football and Basketball, but not if it takes cheating. If that's the case, I'd rather have them win in the FCS division.
    This.

    Ideally we'll win by building a program the right way. That's the kind of reputation I want ISU to have. Not just another school that got good by cheating.



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    Re: Maybe ISU needs to start cheating

    Quote Originally Posted by GMackey32 View Post
    3 words:

    "Honor Before Victory"
    This schtick is getting old.... Those words hardly mean anything these days.



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    Re: Maybe ISU needs to start cheating

    Quote Originally Posted by CyDude16 View Post
    This schtick is getting old.... Those words hardly mean anything these days.
    I agree. It would be nice to get to "Honor AND Victory" for a change.



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    Re: Maybe ISU needs to start cheating

    Quote Originally Posted by CyDude16 View Post
    This schtick is getting old.... Those words hardly mean anything these days.

    How about you tell Rhoads that.


    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisMWilliams View Post
    I agree. We didn't choose Iowa State because it is easy. We chose Iowa State because it is awesome.
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    So frickin jealous of what they have in Ames. It's truly amazing what Fred has done coming in with 0 coaching experience.

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    Re: Maybe ISU needs to start cheating

    Quote Originally Posted by xboxfever View Post
    And this kind of attitude is why ISU will never win a championship.
    Never is a really, really long time. I'll take that bet.


    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisMWilliams View Post
    I agree. We didn't choose Iowa State because it is easy. We chose Iowa State because it is awesome.
    Post from HawkeyeNation:

    So frickin jealous of what they have in Ames. It's truly amazing what Fred has done coming in with 0 coaching experience.

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