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    First day for Freshman - Strength and Conditioning

    Heard some good things about David Irving from a friend in the know today. Apparently he has the athleticism we were hoping for and got a steal. He broad jumped over 10' today, something only 4 other players on the entire team did and he's a true freshman DE. Pretty impressive.

    Also heard some really good things about Robert Standard. Sounds like he has the frame to put on some weight and be a quality RB.



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    Re: First day for Freshman - Strength and Conditioning

    Irving and Miller WILL both be big time players for the Cyclones before its all said and done. You heard it here. But then again I think most of you have heard by now they have the potential.. I think they were big steals for us. And they aren't the only good guys we have coming in.



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    Re: First day for Freshman - Strength and Conditioning

    Quote Originally Posted by RustShack View Post
    Irving and Miller WILL both be big time players for the Cyclones before its all said and done. You heard it here. But then again I think most of you have heard by now they have the potential.. I think they were big steals for us. And they aren't the only good guys we have coming in.
    Steals in the sense that ISU seemed to be the only ones to find those guys, definitely.



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    Re: First day for Freshman - Strength and Conditioning

    Quote Originally Posted by RustShack View Post
    Irving and Miller WILL both be big time players for the Cyclones before its all said and done. You heard it here. But then again I think most of you have heard by now they have the potential.. I think they were big steals for us. And they aren't the only good guys we have coming in.
    I'll take the bet on Irving. I think Miller will be one of those guys that we all agree made a significant contribution to ISU football before he's done (although he's not ready this year). I will be surprised if Irving is ever more than a situational pass rusher.



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    Re: First day for Freshman - Strength and Conditioning

    Quote Originally Posted by Istate View Post
    I'll take the bet on Irving. I think Miller will be one of those guys that we all agree made a significant contribution to ISU football before he's done (although he's not ready this year). I will be surprised if Irving is ever more than a situational pass rusher.
    If he's broad jumping 10', he's going to be plenty athletic. I would bet that he ends up more than a situational pass rusher. He may need a few years to put on some muscle, but with those long arms, he should be able to keep OLs off him without really locking horns with them.

    I'd like to see how Lemke, Nealy, Lampkin, Brackens and Daniels tested.



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    Re: First day for Freshman - Strength and Conditioning

    Quote Originally Posted by Frak View Post
    If he's broad jumping 10', he's going to be plenty athletic. I would bet that he ends up more than a situational pass rusher. He may need a few years to put on some muscle, but with those long arms, he should be able to keep OLs off him without really locking horns with them.

    I'd like to see how Lemke, Nealy, Lampkin, Brackens and Daniels tested.
    mcknight was/is athletic. just sayin.



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    Re: First day for Freshman - Strength and Conditioning

    Quote Originally Posted by Istate View Post
    I'll take the bet on Irving. I think Miller will be one of those guys that we all agree made a significant contribution to ISU football before he's done (although he's not ready this year). I will be surprised if Irving is ever more than a situational pass rusher.
    In the big 12 you use a "situational pass rusher" as you call it, just about all the time.

    Mizzou-every down
    Texas-every down
    ATm-every down
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    Ksu-maybe not on first down or second and short
    Ku-dont really know
    Baylor-every down
    Tech-every down
    Oklahoma-every down

    Besides that, if he gets to 280 or so he will be fine against the run not to mention you are taking it for granted that we will have a better option against the run


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    Re: First day for Freshman - Strength and Conditioning

    Miller will be really good by the end of his tenure.


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    Re: First day for Freshman - Strength and Conditioning

    When do they do 100 squats? I want to see who has the best kidneys.



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    Re: First day for Freshman - Strength and Conditioning

    I was around for a bit and I was most impressed by Robert Standard.

    To keep it short....he could become a feature back.
    I'd love to have him at LB but his future is at RB.

    Great young man to have in the program.


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    Re: First day for Freshman - Strength and Conditioning

    So do we know who has all made it to campus? I can't remember the academic risks, can anybody refresh my memory?



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    Re: First day for Freshman - Strength and Conditioning

    Quote Originally Posted by CYVADER View Post
    mcknight was/is athletic. just sayin.
    Well there we go. Case closed. One athlete had athleticism in a completely different sport and transferred after his freshman year, so logically another freshmen in football will not be able to contribute as anything more than a pass rusher in his entire career.

    Football is really about developing talent and playing Juniors and Seniors. If you are starting sophomores and freshmen it usually means you are either too thin at that position or you have a stud playing. Just because a freshman's strength is athleticism doesn't mean that he can't ever learn the other things that go into playing a position and doesn't mean he can't use the skills he has to contribute.

    I know athleticism doesn't mean that a player will absolutely be a contributor but size mixed with athleticism will allow him to at least contribute in spot duty relatively early in his career. I firmly believe that if Irving doesn't redshirt he will bring something to the DE position we don't already have (6'7" 250/260) and if he does redshirt he will contribute as a RS Freshman next year. We just don't have anyone with his skillset on our entire team.


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    Re: First day for Freshman - Strength and Conditioning

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCaptain View Post
    I was around for a bit and I was most impressed by Robert Standard.

    To keep it short....he could become a feature back.
    I'd love to have him at LB but his future is at RB.

    Great young man to have in the program.
    Isn't he only 5'8" and 180ish lbs?



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    Re: First day for Freshman - Strength and Conditioning

    Quote Originally Posted by Stewo View Post
    Isn't he only 5'8" and 180ish lbs?
    Maybe 2 years ago.

    I stood next to him this morning and I'd say he's 5'11'-6' and about
    195 ish.Needs some quality weight packed on but the kid is a freak athlete.


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    Re: First day for Freshman - Strength and Conditioning

    Offensive guys are out enjoying themselves tonight. I'd assume it was just defense today that were ran hard. Off guys said they max out on Mon. Teddy & Standard are good kids to talk to.



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