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    Anyone live along the Missouri River......

    ..and facing serious dmamge to their homes? I am just out of harm's way, but many of may colleagues are panicking about what to do. The Army COE should've released more water earlier this spring up in the Dakotas, and this probably wouldn't be happening!


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    Thats not true at all about the Corp. The general public doesnt have much of the facts and everyone is looking for someone to point their fingers at. Its a crazy record of water. Not much they could do. Really a learning process for everyone.

    The thing that bothers me a bit is if the older dams can withstand it all and for how long.


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    Re: Anyone live along trhe Missouri River......

    Quote Originally Posted by bos View Post
    Thats not true at all about the Corp. The general public doesnt have much of the facts and everyone is looking for someone to point their fingers at. Its a crazy record of water. Not much they could do. Really a learning process for everyone.

    The thing that bothers me a bit is if the older dams can withstand it all and for how long.
    As a Corps of Engineers project manager I do get sick of the politicians taking cheap shots at the reservoir operations as the "cause" of this. They have had a year’s worth of rain in the upper basin in just two weeks and somebody in the National Weather Service or USGS or the Corps was supposed to have predicted that? South Dakota has sued to have the operations bias towards reservoir recreation, Missouri wants flows for navigation and Iowa and Nebraska want flood control and wildlife except if it hurts ag fields in the flood plain. I feel for the Omaha District in trying to balance use between all of these children. Too bad there is no Solomon’s baby solution at hand. If the reserviors were not in place at all where do they think all of these flows would go? People do not understand how much flow is represented at 150,000 cubic feet per second as opposed to the storage capacity of reservoirs, even relatively large reservoirs like those on the Mo.

    Same thing happened on the border in North Dakota over the last couple of weeks. The Souris has reservoirs upstream in Canada that got full after the snow melt (feed by mountains in Canada) and a TON of spring rain. This resulted in record flows at Minot that at one point had 10,000 folks set to evacuate. Lake Darling (in the USA) filled quickly and after that discharges were pretty much dictated by how much was continuing to flow into the reservoir.

    I won’t worry about the dams. The outflows may be unprecedented but they are not outside what the dams were designed for. Water is continuing to flow into the system at an unprecidented rate and these water levels will be up all summer.

    I am taking vacation time this afternoon to make a road trip to Iowa (family stuff) and wish I could stick around for the rest of this thread tonight.


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    Re: Anyone live along trhe Missouri River......

    Good to see we have someone in the know handy. Thank you for the post. I can only imagine the lawsuits coming. It truly a horrible incident, but as mentioned, there was no way to predict it or change it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by bos View Post
    Good to see we have someone in the know handy. Thank you for the post. I can only imagine the lawsuits coming. It truly a horrible incident, but as mentioned, there was no way to predict it or change it.
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    Wow, that is a position you could lose weight on.



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    Re: Anyone live along trhe Missouri River......

    Anyone have a link to a webcam showing the Missouri River at all? I was searching yesterday and couldn't come up with much...would like to watch the river via webcam if possible.



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    Re: Anyone live along trhe Missouri River......

    I don't live along the river and I am safe, but it kills me to ride about and see all the potential devastation. If one levy goes an entire town can be under water. Plus it won't just go away. That water would most likely be there for several months. I doubt anything would be salvageable at that point.


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    Re: Anyone live along trhe Missouri River......

    Quote Originally Posted by cyfanatic View Post
    Anyone have a link to a webcam showing the Missouri River at all? I was searching yesterday and couldn't come up with much...would like to watch the river via webcam if possible.
    Not sure if there are any webcams along the river. I might try to get out and get some pictures this weekend.


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    Re: Anyone live along trhe Missouri River......

    Quote Originally Posted by cyfanatic View Post
    Anyone have a link to a webcam showing the Missouri River at all? I was searching yesterday and couldn't come up with much...would like to watch the river via webcam if possible.
    Flood Cam Images - Iowa DOT

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    Cool...thanks!



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    Re: Anyone live along trhe Missouri River......

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclones_R_GR8 View Post
    Not sure if there are any webcams along the river. I might try to get out and get some pictures this weekend.
    I would love to see some pics if you get a chance...just hard to imagine that much water rushing through...



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    Re: Anyone live along trhe Missouri River......

    Here are some pics if you can view these.
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    Re: Anyone live along trhe Missouri River......

    Quote Originally Posted by bos View Post
    Here are some pics if you can view these.
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    Wow...there are some crazy shots in there!



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    Re: Anyone live along trhe Missouri River......

    I understand there has been well above precip on the northern Missouri river basin, however, I don't think the corp of engineers are not faultless. I know a Marina operator in Pierre,SD and he said the resevior was full last fall and winter yet the river below Oahe had sand bars exposed. They could have been releasing much more water last fall and winter and then maybe the release now would be so great. I know ice dams are a problem in the winter but i didnt hear of one. I bet they release more water this winter!!



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