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    Carlos Zambrano at it again

    Carlos Zambrano: Carlos Zambrano rips into Chicago Cubs, Carlos Marmol after 3-2 loss to St. Louis Cardinals - chicagotribune.com

    What he said is true but you can't just throw teammates under the bus like that either. Wish he'd just keep his mouth shut, keep pitching well, and just maybe some contender will want to trade for him at the deadline.

    It's not like Big Z has much room to talk, he's been just as bad the past few years himself. A couple months of decent pitching doesn't make up for some of the terrible months he had last year, especially for a guy getting paid $18 mil like an ace but doesn't pitch like one.


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    Re: Carlos Zambrano at it again

    I agree it was not the proper thing to do to say what he said in the media. He should have met with his Manager and Marmol in private and called them out that way. He is right though. Maybe someone will listen this way and make some changes. This team is unwatchable.

    The stadium is going to be empty by the end of the season. They are going to need to do somehting at the all star break to create a buzz or they are going to lose a ton of money this year.


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    Re: Carlos Zambrano at it again

    Marmol couldn't throw his fastball even close, which is why he didn't want to throw it. That's why he'll never be an elite closer even though he has the raw stuff. He'll go stretches where he can't throw his fastball for a strike which allows hitters to look for the slider.

    As for Zambrano, I hope he changes his mind on not accepting a trade. Both for him and for the team. He'd be the best pitcher on the market.



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    Re: Carlos Zambrano at it again

    I'm sure Z would welcome a trade to a contender at this point. I think any "buzz" for this season is not going to happen, they need to clear payroll and address their needs in free agency after the season.

    Problem is they have about $90 mil tied up in Soriano, Zambrano, Dempster, Fukudome, Pena, and Ramirez. Pena and Fukudome come off the books this year, Ramirez has an option he'll likely exercise because he probably won't get what he is making now on the free agent market after the season he's having. I think both Z and Dempster are off the books after next season as well as Byrd's $5.5 mil and the Cubs are just stuck with Soriano. The only other "significant" money they can clear up after this season is Grabow's $4.8 mil, Samardzija's $3.3 mil, Wood's $1.5 mil and I'm guessing of those 3 Grabow is gone and they'll try to keep the other 2 around at reasonable contracts.

    To me this mess can all be traced back to Jim Hendry. I know the guy has lucked into some great deals and prospects but for every good move he's made he's had nearly 2 bad ones that have handcuffed the team's payroll as well.


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    Re: Carlos Zambrano at it again

    I applaud Z for what he said, it's about freaking time someone showed some emotion on this team.



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    Re: Carlos Zambrano at it again

    Not nearly as bad as the rest of his tirades because at least he's right this time. I kind of like seeing someone publicly lay into this team for once. God knows Quade won't do it. I know its not the best way of handling the situation but it's good to know at least someone on the team is as frustrated as the fans.



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    Re: Carlos Zambrano at it again

    Quote Originally Posted by CYdTracked View Post
    I'm sure Z would welcome a trade to a contender at this point. I think any "buzz" for this season is not going to happen, they need to clear payroll and address their needs in free agency after the season.

    Problem is they have about $90 mil tied up in Soriano, Zambrano, Dempster, Fukudome, Pena, and Ramirez. Pena and Fukudome come off the books this year, Ramirez has an option he'll likely exercise because he probably won't get what he is making now on the free agent market after the season he's having. I think both Z and Dempster are off the books after next season as well as Byrd's $5.5 mil and the Cubs are just stuck with Soriano. The only other "significant" money they can clear up after this season is Grabow's $4.8 mil, Samardzija's $3.3 mil, Wood's $1.5 mil and I'm guessing of those 3 Grabow is gone and they'll try to keep the other 2 around at reasonable contracts.

    To me this mess can all be traced back to Jim Hendry. I know the guy has lucked into some great deals and prospects but for every good move he's made he's had nearly 2 bad ones that have handcuffed the team's payroll as well.
    The 2012 option is a club option and not a player option. No way he is back for 2012.


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    Re: Carlos Zambrano at it again

    Quote Originally Posted by CYdTracked View Post
    I'm sure Z would welcome a trade to a contender at this point. I think any "buzz" for this season is not going to happen, they need to clear payroll and address their needs in free agency after the season.

    Problem is they have about $90 mil tied up in Soriano, Zambrano, Dempster, Fukudome, Pena, and Ramirez. Pena and Fukudome come off the books this year, Ramirez has an option he'll likely exercise because he probably won't get what he is making now on the free agent market after the season he's having. I think both Z and Dempster are off the books after next season as well as Byrd's $5.5 mil and the Cubs are just stuck with Soriano. The only other "significant" money they can clear up after this season is Grabow's $4.8 mil, Samardzija's $3.3 mil, Wood's $1.5 mil and I'm guessing of those 3 Grabow is gone and they'll try to keep the other 2 around at reasonable contracts.

    To me this mess can all be traced back to Jim Hendry. I know the guy has lucked into some great deals and prospects but for every good move he's made he's had nearly 2 bad ones that have handcuffed the team's payroll as well.
    Almost positive that he has a team option. He's gone too.



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    Re: Carlos Zambrano at it again

    Quote Originally Posted by mred View Post
    I wish Brenly was manager.



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    Re: Carlos Zambrano at it again

    Trade him to St. Louis for Ryan Franklin. We'll gladly make the trade!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Haverhill View Post
    Trade him to St. Louis for Ryan Franklin. We'll gladly make the trade!!
    Of course you would, the Cubs won't.



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    Re: Carlos Zambrano at it again

    right thing to do, maybe not the best wording but like brenly said, it was the best thing to do



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    Re: Carlos Zambrano at it again

    Quote Originally Posted by Clark View Post
    Marmol couldn't throw his fastball even close, which is why he didn't want to throw it. That's why he'll never be an elite closer even though he has the raw stuff. He'll go stretches where he can't throw his fastball for a strike which allows hitters to look for the slider.

    As for Zambrano, I hope he changes his mind on not accepting a trade. Both for him and for the team. He'd be the best pitcher on the market.
    So how is Kyle Farnsworth doing these days?


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    Re: Carlos Zambrano at it again

    Quote Originally Posted by Haverhill View Post
    Trade him to St. Louis for Ryan Franklin. We'll gladly make the trade!!
    Both may end up rotten this year.


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