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    Air France Crash Report Shows Confused Cockpit - WSJ.com

    The report paints a somewhat unflattering picture of a seemingly confused cockpit, with the crew making extreme inputs to their flight controls and the engines spooling up to full power and later the thrust levers being pulled back to idle. At one point, according to the report, both pilots sitting in front of the controls tried to put in simultaneous commands. The plane only accepts one of them.


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    Re: Confusion

    It's also interesting, as stated in the articles about this flight, that they didn't attempt to lower the nose to regain lift.

    I still can't believe that they were able to find the data boxes and for them to still be operational.





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    Re: Confusion

    Very, very strange. You would think the plane would have a secondary and even tertiary means of determining air speed...GPS, radar, etc.


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    Re: Confusion

    That was a pretty bold statement saying that the crew violated the first rule that any pilot learns that in a stall situation you always point the nose down to regain lift. It seems strange that their response while already losing significant altitude was to throttle down the engines to and idle which is apparently the standard engine speed when coming in to land? Doesn't sound like the correct strategy when trying to stop an uncontrolled decent.

    Sounds like they could have used the United flight crew from the plane that crashed in Sioux City years ago. Those guys managed to save over half of the passengers on board that flight when in mid flight an engine exploded causing them to lose hydraulic pressure in all 3 of the planes hydraulic systems. That means that they were a complete dead stick with no control at all over the direction of the plane. They controlled the plane by manually altering the individual speeds of the two wing engines to turn the plane left and right. How they came as close as they did to actually landing that plane I will never know.

    There is a good documentary about that flight on Youtube along with animations with the actual cockpit voice recordings of the pilots as they came in to land. Pretty interesting stuff.


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