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    Just cause im bored: Big XII expansion

    Hooray offseason!

    OU
    OSU
    Tech
    Baylor
    Fresno
    SDSU

    Texas
    A&M
    Missouri
    Iowa State
    Kansas
    Kansas State

    Adds the 26 & 55th tv markets which would increase Tier 1 deal, entry for California recruiting, balances out the power by splitting the former South schools up.Can maintain cross division games by declaration. Potential for RRS rematches in CCG ( which would demand a steep steep payout for TV)


    & just cause im elitest name the western division : "Switzerland" & The eastern "Royal with cheese"

    I am so sleepy


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    Re: Just cause im bored: Big XII expansion

    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
    Hooray offseason!

    OU
    OSU
    Tech
    Baylor
    Fresno
    SDSU

    Texas
    A&M
    Missouri
    Iowa State
    Kansas
    Kansas State

    Adds the 26 & 55th tv markets which would increase Tier 1 deal, entry for California recruiting, balances out the power by splitting the former South schools up.Can maintain cross division games by declaration. Potential for RRS rematches in CCG ( which would demand a steep steep payout for TV)


    & just cause im elitest name the western division : "Switzerland" & The eastern "Royal with cheese"

    I am so sleepy
    Boom, what do you think the chances are of us getting back to 12 teams? Presumably good since we kept the name, right? I like your setup but I'm wondering if California teams pose a logistical issue for us poorer teams? Maybe not more so than LVille or BYU but as you say it's about TV and California gets TV sets. I wouldn't mind seeing BYU supplant Fresno but keeping SD.


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    Re: Just cause im bored: Big XII expansion

    NWIH on Fresno. I could get behind SDSU.

    I still think Louisville or BYU would be great pick ups.


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    Re: Just cause im bored: Big XII expansion

    Quote Originally Posted by Al_4_State View Post
    NWIH on Fresno. I could get behind SDSU.

    I still think Louisville or BYU would be great pick ups.
    Agree but I like the idea of getting into California.


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    Re: Just cause im bored: Big XII expansion

    Quote Originally Posted by weR138 View Post
    Agree but I like the idea of getting into California.
    Right. Keep SDSU, don't add Fresno and add BYU or Louisville instead.

    My guess is BYU due to the "national" fan base, and it making more geographic sense if we're picking up SDSU.


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    Re: Just cause im bored: Big XII expansion

    I like the idea of going for broke and offering Arizona and Arizona State. The Big 12 is looking like they will get a better TV deal with 10 schools compared to the PAC-12. The Arizona schools have decent basketball programs, decent baseball programs, and AZ State has a wrestling program that could use a serious boost by moving to the Big 12. Also, the Big 12 partnership with the Fiesta Bowl & Insight Bowl could increase local attendence for those post-season games, as well as serve as sites for a Conference Championship Game (rotate between K.C., Dallas, Glendale, etc.)

    If Texas were to participate in any conference restructuring, I would think that the "less prominent" (for lack of a better term) BCS schools would at least discuss the possibility of joining the Big 12 - assuming the $$$ was right.



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    Re: Just cause im bored: Big XII expansion

    There are plenty of good options for expansion. The question is, do we want to expand? If yes, then the question is, to what number of schools?



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    Re: Just cause im bored: Big XII expansion

    Fresno, a team we can beat.


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    Re: Just cause im bored: Big XII expansion

    Quote Originally Posted by snowcraig2.0 View Post
    There are plenty of good options for expansion. The question is, do we want to expand? If yes, then the question is, to what number of schools?
    Are there advantages to going beyond 12?


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    Re: Just cause im bored: Big XII expansion

    Quote Originally Posted by Wesley View Post
    Fresno, a team we can beat.
    We can beat SDSU.


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    Re: Just cause im bored: Big XII expansion

    I think we should add Louisville and BYU as well. I would like to see Oklahoma and Oklahoma State come to the north with guarantee rival games with a south team every year so that Oklahoma and Texas still play every season.

    BYU
    Louisville
    Tech
    A&M
    Texas
    Baylor

    Oklahoma
    Oklahoma State
    Kansas
    Kansas State
    Mizzou
    Iowa State



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    Re: Just cause im bored: Big XII expansion

    Quote Originally Posted by weR138 View Post
    Are there advantages to going beyond 12?
    Besides being the first conference to drop the Atomic Bomb, no.

    Conferences larger than 12 just aren't good. 12 is almost too big.


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    Re: Just cause im bored: Big XII expansion

    don't like west coast schools in the big 12 because of the time zone differences. Basketball games won't start unitl 9pm. SDSU had 1 good basketball season, doesn't bring them into the big 12 quality.

    BYU and Louisville are better options.



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    Re: Just cause im bored: Big XII expansion

    Quote Originally Posted by Pille1895 View Post
    I think we should add Louisville and BYU as well. I would like to see Oklahoma and Oklahoma State come to the north with guarantee rival games with a south team every year so that Oklahoma and Texas still play every season.

    BYU
    Louisville
    Tech
    A&M
    Texas
    Baylor

    Oklahoma
    Oklahoma State
    Kansas
    Kansas State
    Mizzou
    Iowa State
    I've had similar thoughts as well. Louisville for sure, either BYU or Air Force to reclaim some of Colorado if they carry many TVs in that area?



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    Re: Just cause im bored: Big XII expansion

    Quote Originally Posted by erikbj View Post
    don't like west coast schools in the big 12 because of the time zone differences. Basketball games won't start unitl 9pm. SDSU had 1 good basketball season, doesn't bring them into the big 12 quality.

    BYU and Louisville are better options.

    Hypothetical raiding of the Big East.

    Get Louisville, Cincy, WVU, and Pitt.

    East Division:
    ISU
    Mizzou
    Louisville
    Cincy
    WVU
    Pitt
    OU

    West
    UT
    A&M
    Tech
    Baylor
    KU
    KSU
    OSU



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