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    Which B12 MBB programs aren't "stepping stones"?

    Turgeon leaving for Maryland got me thinking. KU, obviously. Texas, probably. ISU, yes... thanks to Fred.

    Every other school in the conference has either fired their coach or lost them to another school in what, the last five years? That instability is pretty incredible for a conference that is near the top of the RPI year after year. You'd think there would be more destination jobs than we've seen.

    We're kind of paranoid about ISU keeping coaches. It really goes on everywhere. Every school is vulnerable except for maybe the top 10-15 perennial programs.

    I don't know what you do about it. It would be nice if the schools had more leverage in holding their coaches to their contracts.



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    Re: Which B12 MBB programs aren't "stepping stones"?

    I would probably add Oklahoma to the list as well. I can't remember how the whole Kelvin Sampson thing went down, but I know his crap was starting to catch up with him at OU before he left. But regardless, if Oklahoma is successful, you don't see their coaches leaving to go somewhere else very often.



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    Re: Which B12 MBB programs aren't "stepping stones"?

    Quote Originally Posted by HuddleUp View Post
    Turgeon leaving for Maryland got me thinking. KU, obviously. Texas, probably. ISU, yes... thanks to Fred.

    Every other school in the conference has either fired their coach or lost them to another school in what, the last five years? That instability is pretty incredible for a conference that is near the top of the RPI year after year. You'd think there would be more destination jobs than we've seen.

    We're kind of paranoid about ISU keeping coaches. It really goes on everywhere. Every school is vulnerable except for maybe the top 10-15 perennial programs.

    I don't know what you do about it. It would be nice if the schools had more leverage in holding their coaches to their contracts.
    Whether or not a school is a "stepping stone" job just depends on the coach and his career aspirations. Every D-1 basketball coach has some dream job in mind, and unless he is already there, any other school he's at can be used as a stepping stone. Roy Williams used Kansas as a stepping stone.

    I think there are 6-8 elite NCAA jobs out there, where coaches will always listen to their offers, no matter how happy they are at their current position. But outside of those it just depends on where a coach wants to be.



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    Re: Which B12 MBB programs aren't "stepping stones"?

    They all are...even KU (just ask Roy Boy)



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    Re: Which B12 MBB programs aren't "stepping stones"?

    Quote Originally Posted by isuno1fan View Post
    They all are...even KU (just ask Roy Boy)
    correct the only ones i can think of are maybe UNC or Duke or Kentucky???



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    Re: Which B12 MBB programs aren't "stepping stones"?

    I hate to even bring this up, but I think the only way we lose Hoiberg is: A.) he isn't successful, or B.) to the NBA. Just a gut feeling, that is all.

    KU, depending, and probably Texas. All others depending on the individual ate not apex jobs.



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    Re: Which B12 MBB programs aren't "stepping stones"?

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclonepower View Post
    correct the only ones i can think of are maybe UNC or Duke or Kentucky???
    I was thinking Indiana was at one time but then again Michigan St has had a long run between Heathcoate and Izzo.
    I'd say it varies from eras.


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    Re: Which B12 MBB programs aren't "stepping stones"?

    Quote Originally Posted by madcityCY View Post
    I hate to even bring this up, but I think the only way we lose Hoiberg is: A.) he isn't successful, or B.) to the NBA. Just a gut feeling, that is all.
    I agree. If Fred moves on to a more prestigious job, it will likely be the NBA.

    Virtually every job can be a stepping stone to something else.


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    Re: Which B12 MBB programs aren't "stepping stones"?

    Quote Originally Posted by HuddleUp View Post
    Turgeon leaving for Maryland got me thinking. KU, obviously. Texas, probably. ISU, yes... thanks to Fred.

    Every other school in the conference has either fired their coach or lost them to another school in what, the last five years? That instability is pretty incredible for a conference that is near the top of the RPI year after year. You'd think there would be more destination jobs than we've seen.

    We're kind of paranoid about ISU keeping coaches. It really goes on everywhere. Every school is vulnerable except for maybe the top 10-15 perennial programs.

    I don't know what you do about it. It would be nice if the schools had more leverage in holding their coaches to their contracts.
    ISU hasn't fired a coach in the last 5 years?



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    Re: Which B12 MBB programs aren't "stepping stones"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye11en1 View Post
    ISU hasn't fired a coach in the last 5 years?
    No.



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    Re: Which B12 MBB programs aren't "stepping stones"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye11en1 View Post
    ISU hasn't fired a coach in the last 5 years?
    Iowa is a stepping stone to New Mexico.



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    Re: Which B12 MBB programs aren't "stepping stones"?

    Quote Originally Posted by ribsnwhiskey View Post
    Iowa is a stepping stone to New Mexico.
    So ISU is the stepping stone to Creighton?



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    Re: Which B12 MBB programs aren't "stepping stones"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye11en1 View Post
    So ISU is the stepping stone to Creighton?
    At least our bad coaches still have jobs. what is Lickliter doing again?



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    Re: Which B12 MBB programs aren't "stepping stones"?

    Quote Originally Posted by brett108 View Post
    At least our bad coaches still have jobs. what is Lickliter doing again?
    You are seriously going to argue which school had the better crappy coach. This is an argument that no one can win.



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    Re: Which B12 MBB programs aren't "stepping stones"?

    Quote Originally Posted by FarminCy View Post
    You are seriously going to argue which school had the better crappy coach. This is an argument that no one can win.
    lol so true. My main point was that I thought Morgan was fired in the last 5 years. Was it 6 years ago?



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