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    D.O.J. letter to the NCAA

    Why No Playoffs?

    The "aren't there better things to do?" argument always comes out when it comes to this, and I feel like it's kind of a cop out. It's an obvious diversionary tactic.


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    Re: D.O.J. letter to the NCAA

    They're evidently running out of Amish farmers to chase down. Oh wait, that's the FDA



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    Re: D.O.J. letter to the NCAA

    Why does the NCAA have no playoffs? Because the schools by and large have no interest. The current bowl setup benefits far more schools, especially those typically outside the top 10-15 programs, than a playoff ever would.

    If they try to take down the BCS system over antitrust, the system will just go back to how it was before, with the top tier bowls having arrangements with the BCS conferences, and there will be even less opportunity for non-bcs teams to find their ways into these games.


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    Re: D.O.J. letter to the NCAA

    Bill Hancock, the BCS executive director, was confident the current system complies with the law.


    "Goodness gracious, with all that's going on in the world right now and with national and state budgets being what they are, it seems like a waste of taxpayers' money to have the government looking into how college football games are played," he said.
    Perhaps the BCS should lose its non-profit status, especially considering the Fiesta Bowl fiasco.


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    Re: D.O.J. letter to the NCAA

    Quote Originally Posted by CloneAggie View Post
    Perhaps the NCAA should lose its non-profit status
    Fixed that for you



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    Re: D.O.J. letter to the NCAA

    Quote Originally Posted by IcSyU View Post
    Fixed that for you
    Perhaps.


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    Re: D.O.J. letter to the NCAA

    Just strip the NCAA of its non-profit status. A playoff system would doom all but a few programs.


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    Re: D.O.J. letter to the NCAA

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Janny View Post
    Why No Playoffs?

    The "aren't there better things to do?" argument always comes out when it comes to this, and I feel like it's kind of a cop out. It's an obvious diversionary tactic.
    College football is a multi billion industry. It is no different from any other monopoly that the gift has stopped. The... don't they have anything better to do crowd conveniently ignore how bog of an industry it is.
    Now whether or not the govt should interfere with industry ...well that is a topic for Other board


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    Re: D.O.J. letter to the NCAA

    Whether or not there is a playoff is something that leads me to say "don't they have anything better to do".....and I would LOVE to see a playoff.

    The tax-exempt status makes me want the govt involved. What a scam.



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    Re: D.O.J. letter to the NCAA

    Yeah, this stuff just pisses me off. The DOJ has laws on the books that they refuse to enforce; serious stuff like illegal immigration. And when they won't enforce the law and some State like Az decides to do what the Feds won't, they have money to spend to take Az to court to make sure than NO BODY WILL ENFORCE THE LAW.

    And while all this crap is going on the DOJ takes on college football and Amish farmers? Makes absolutely no sense to me.



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    Re: D.O.J. letter to the NCAA

    aren't there better things to do?



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    Re: D.O.J. letter to the NCAA

    The govt needs more tax revenue.


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    Re: D.O.J. letter to the NCAA

    How would creating a playoff system create parity and help institutions/teams from the underprivileged conferences?



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    Re: D.O.J. letter to the NCAA

    Here is why it is an issue that should have government involvement: the bowls are the ones making the money and the schools aren't. When you see the payouts, they are gross of all the expenses the school has and many MANY times schools have lost money going to bowl games and the GOVERNMENT has made up the shortfall. And the bowl officials themselves are taking home huge paychecks for doing practically nothing. If the NCAA had a playoff AND also controlled the bowl games for teams that didn't make the playoff, they could control how the money is disbursed and also eliminate a lot of the waste. Also, a playoff would generate much more money for the schools than the bowls.

    You can have a playoff with bowls, but they need to be reformed.

    Read Death to the BCS. A lot of the corruption of the bowls is discussed in there.



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    Re: D.O.J. letter to the NCAA

    Schools dont have to accept bowl invites. If they werent benefiting from the bowls, they wouldnt be going. If schools are choosing to go despite the fact that they are going to lose major money, that is on them to say no. And you say the 'government' made up the shortfall, not so much. Often the losses are absorbed by the athletic department or conference, depending on contracts.

    There are examples of schools losing money when they couldnt sell their allotments, but those issues will likely come up in future contract negotiations.


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