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    Winners and Losers in the Draft

    Who do you think had a good draft and who failed miserably?

    I think the Lions got a steal w/ Fairley and that defensive line is gonna be good for along time to come. If the packers werent in that division and if stafford could stay healthy, they'd be winning the division in 2 or 3 year



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    Re: Winners and Losers in the Draft

    Losers: Redskins - Niles Paul




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    Re: Winners and Losers in the Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by isuaggie View Post
    Losers: Redskins - Niles Paul
    I don't think their ineptitude was limited to just Niles Paul. They got a ton of picks, but nearly every one arrives with questions, except maybe Kerrigan.


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    Re: Winners and Losers in the Draft

    i think the chiefs failed when they picked up stanzi. if they were serious about a QB they should have gotten mallet or dalton in the 2nd or 3rd round



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    Re: Winners and Losers in the Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by hawkeyeh8r View Post
    i think the chiefs failed when they picked up stanzi. if they were serious about a QB they should have gotten mallet or dalton in the 2nd or 3rd round
    I don't like Stankzi any more than the next guy, but for a 5th rounder, intended to be a backup, he's not a bad pick. He'll hold a clipboard for a while, maybe his whole career, but he'll probably keep his roster spot.


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    Re: Winners and Losers in the Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by hawkeyeh8r View Post
    Who do you think had a good draft and who failed miserably?

    I think the Lions got a steal w/ Fairley and that defensive line is gonna be good for along time to come. If the packers werent in that division and if stafford could stay healthy, they'd be winning the division in 2 or 3 year
    Just a reminder, Packers didn't win the division last year.

    I liked
    Colts-Drake Nevis, Castonzo
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    Da'quan Bower's Knee is perfectly fine, and he shows up all the doctors
    Ponder/Mallett(even though I hate the Patriots) become the best QBs in this draft



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    Re: Winners and Losers in the Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Janny View Post
    I don't like Stankzi any more than the next guy, but for a 5th rounder, intended to be a backup, he's not a bad pick. He'll hold a clipboard for a while, maybe his whole career, but he'll probably keep his roster spot.
    ya but we need a backup for cassel he's old (in football years) and we need a more reliable passer



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    Re: Winners and Losers in the Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by hawkeyeh8r View Post
    ya but we need a backup for cassel he's old (in football years) and we need a more reliable passer
    QBs can play for a long time, and you weren't gonna get a more reliable qb than Cassel in this draft.



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    Re: Winners and Losers in the Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Yes13 View Post
    QBs can play for a long time, and you weren't gonna get a more reliable qb than Cassel in this draft.
    not for a couple years at least. i think andy dalton would have been a reliable after sitting on the bench and learning the playbook for a couple years



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    Re: Winners and Losers in the Draft

    How would they get Dalton, though? He went as the 3rd pick of the 2nd round. Should KC have passed on Baldwin to take Dalton?


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    Re: Winners and Losers in the Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Janny View Post
    How would they get Dalton, though? He went as the 3rd pick of the 2nd round. Should KC have passed on Baldwin to take Dalton?
    i would have traded up to get him since they picked up a bunch of picks after they traded down in the first round.



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    Re: Winners and Losers in the Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by hawkeyeh8r View Post
    i would have traded up to get him since they picked up a bunch of picks after they traded down in the first round.

    Say what you want about Ricky but he was a very good QB last year as far as stats go, he struggled in his So and Jr years but last year he was very comparable to Dalton and Ricky played better teams.

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    2010 - Attempts/Completions 309/216 for 66.1%, 27TDs with 6 INT, for a 166.5 Rating

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    2010 - 345-221 for 64.1%, 25 TD's with 6 INT, for a 157.6 Rating


    I know its only one game but Stanzi had a much better game against Wisconsin in 2010 than Dalton did.

    Dalton is a much better runner than Stanzi but running isnt really what you are asking them to do.

    If I had to put money on it I would bet that they are both decent NFL QB's but neither are starters or at least starter quality.


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    Re: Winners and Losers in the Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by hawkeyeh8r View Post
    Who do you think had a good draft and who failed miserably?

    I think the Lions got a steal w/ Fairley and that defensive line is gonna be good for along time to come. If the packers werent in that division and if stafford could stay healthy, they'd be winning the division in 2 or 3 year
    I'm a Bears fan and the Fairley pick scares the hell out of me. Fairley, Suh, Vanden Bosch, thats a nice DL. The Titus Young and Leshore picks were good too. Detroit has a lot of nice young pieces now, just have to keep Stafford healthy.

    I also think Mallett is going to turn out to be by far the best QB to come out of this draft and him going in the third round is an absolute steal by the Pats.



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    Re: Winners and Losers in the Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by hawkeyeh8r View Post
    ya but we need a backup for cassel he's old (in football years) and we need a more reliable passer
    He is 28 and will be on his 3rd season as a true "starter". How is that old? The Chiefs did not need a starting QB. Unless Cassel stops his progression and starts to decline this year (not sure why he would, he is only 28), the Chiefs just need a better backup. A 5th round pick on someone who will be a backup for most (or all) of his career is not a bad pick. He can learn the offense in the next 2-3 years and develop into a capable backup. I think nearly anyone in the draft would be better suited than Croyle, however. I don't think the Chiefs were trying to pick up their future star QB...they were trying to provide capable depth to a position that they desperately needed depth at.



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    Re: Winners and Losers in the Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye11en1 View Post
    He is 28 and will be on his 3rd season as a true "starter". How is that old? The Chiefs did not need a starting QB. Unless Cassel stops his progression and starts to decline this year (not sure why he would, he is only 28), the Chiefs just need a better backup. A 5th round pick on someone who will be a backup for most (or all) of his career is not a bad pick. He can learn the offense in the next 2-3 years and develop into a capable backup. I think nearly anyone in the draft would be better suited than Croyle, however. I don't think the Chiefs were trying to pick up their future star QB...they were trying to provide capable depth to a position that they desperately needed depth at.
    Hell the guy has hardly any miles on him at all! Hes always been a backup!


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