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    Re: Attorney says Tressel could receive show-cause penalty and possible termination

    Mark Jones, a former managing director of enforcement with the NCAA, said Ohio State’s penalties will likely be stiffer if the NCAA rules Tressel committed major violations within the five-year window since OSU’s basketball penalties from March 2006.
    That would classify Ohio State as a repeat violator, which seems clear given the time frame involved and an admission by athletic director Gene Smith at a March 8 press conference, which detailed Tressel’s actions.
    "What we self-reported today is a 10.1 violation,” Smith said. “It's a major violation.”
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    The NCAA has always had the power to ban an institution from competing in a particular sport. However, in 1985, in response to rampant violations at several schools, the NCAA Council passed the "repeat violator" rule. The rule stipulates that if a second major violation occurs at any institution within five years of being on probation in the same sport or another sport, that institution can be barred from competing in the sport involved in the second violation for either one or two seasons. In cases of particularly egregious misconduct, a school can also be stripped of its right to vote at NCAA conventions for four years. The severity of the penalty led the media to dub it "the death penalty," and the nickname has stuck to this day.[1] The NCAA still has the power to ban schools from competing in a sport without any preliminary sanctions in cases of particularly serious violations. However, the "repeat violator" rule gave the Infractions Committees of the various NCAA divisions specific instances where it either must bar a school from competing or explain why it didn't.


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    Re: Attorney says Tressel could receive show-cause penalty and possible termination

    Keywords in all this:

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    school can also be stripped of
    could...but wont
    can...but wont
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    Re: Attorney says Tressel could receive show-cause penalty and possible termination

    I hope it ends up looking something like this for OSU:



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    Re: Attorney says Tressel could receive show-cause penalty and possible termination

    I seriously doubt we'll ever see another death penalty.



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    Re: Attorney says Tressel could receive show-cause penalty and possible termination

    Quote Originally Posted by ruxCYtable View Post
    I seriously doubt we'll ever see another death penalty.

    Unfortunately it won't be with Ohio State.

    I do think that they are in a world of hurt though. If the NCAA wants to keep any credibility then they will drop the hammer. Loss of scholarships, show-cause, more than likely post season bans. Will make the Big 10 pretty competitive.



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    Re: Attorney says Tressel could receive show-cause penalty and possible termination

    i think the ncaa could curb cheating more quickly if they were more severe with punishments. both OSU and Tenn not only broke rules, but then lied about it.



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    Re: Attorney says Tressel could receive show-cause penalty and possible termination

    Quote Originally Posted by brokenloginagain View Post
    i think the ncaa could curb cheating more quickly if they were more severe with punishments. both OSU and Tenn not only broke rules, but then lied about it.
    Maybe instead of a true "death penalty" that punishes the players, they should create a modified death penalty where they have to forfeit all their revenues for a period of time or something.



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    Re: Attorney says Tressel could receive show-cause penalty and possible termination

    Quote Originally Posted by ruxCYtable View Post
    I seriously doubt we'll ever see another death penalty.
    actually, we are probably the ONLY school that could ever see the death penalty in the future. just how it works with ISU. probably should keep our noses clean.


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    Re: Attorney says Tressel could receive show-cause penalty and possible termination

    Quote Originally Posted by ruxCYtable View Post
    I seriously doubt we'll ever see another death penalty.
    Which is why schools will keep doing what they're doing.



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    Re: Attorney says Tressel could receive show-cause penalty and possible termination

    By the way, why is Tressel's passing on of information not being brought up in a legal sense? By him passing information on to Pryor's handler, isn't that illegal? I would have to assume that the information was sensitive enough that Tressel was not supposed to know about since it was an ongoing investigation. But then to pass it on to someone close to the person being investigated seems like it should be illegal somehow.



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    Re: Attorney says Tressel could receive show-cause penalty and possible termination

    Quote Originally Posted by Clonehomer View Post
    By the way, why is Tressel's passing on of information not being brought up in a legal sense? By him passing information on to Pryor's handler, isn't that illegal? I would have to assume that the information was sensitive enough that Tressel was not supposed to know about since it was an ongoing investigation. But then to pass it on to someone close to the person being investigated seems like it should be illegal somehow.
    ummm, unless I'm missing something here they broke an NCAA rule, not a law.


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    Re: Attorney says Tressel could receive show-cause penalty and possible termination

    Quote Originally Posted by Clonehomer View Post
    By the way, why is Tressel's passing on of information not being brought up in a legal sense? By him passing information on to Pryor's handler, isn't that illegal? I would have to assume that the information was sensitive enough that Tressel was not supposed to know about since it was an ongoing investigation. But then to pass it on to someone close to the person being investigated seems like it should be illegal somehow.
    Yeah, really good point. He thought he could not tell his own boss because of the confidentiality of the ongoing investigation, but he thought it was ok to tip off his player and his "handler" that he was being investigated. Some serious lack of judgment there and definitely bordering on the criminal.



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    Re: Attorney says Tressel could receive show-cause penalty and possible termination

    What Tressel did should warrant the forfeit of games and such, but I would imagine that there will be much more. Could the NCAA put a five year ban on all gifts and rewards to the players? So, for example, tOSU could not give away the gold pants, bowl gift bags, or any bowl rings. That seems like the kind of punishment that would fit the crime more than eliminating scholarships or limited recruiting.



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    Re: Attorney says Tressel could receive show-cause penalty and possible termination

    Quote Originally Posted by vmbplayer View Post
    ummm, unless I'm missing something here they broke an NCAA rule, not a law.
    I kind of agree with Clonehomer here that you could argue that by informing Pryor indirectly that he was being investigated that he was, in fact, violating the law, not just NCAA rules.



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