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    Texas - Arizona 5 second violation

    Good call....or not? Discuss.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDBvBTa6Hs0]YouTube - Arizona vs. Texas ending NCAA 11[/ame]


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    Re: Texas - Arizona 5 second violation

    No, but Texas is so stupid they deserve to loose. Let's see, shoot the ball with the lead when you can get fouled and/or run the clock down, and then call a time out so the coach can get his face on TV and then not get the ball back in bounds-WOW.



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    Re: Texas - Arizona 5 second violation

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgzRqDzbAQY]YouTube - Official counts to four then calls a five second violation - Texas vs. Arizona[/ame]

    Here's another angle for the 5 second call.



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    Re: Texas - Arizona 5 second violation

    He jumped the gun by about a half a second, not much, but that was the difference between 5-seconds and a timeout.



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    Re: Texas - Arizona 5 second violation

    Quote Originally Posted by 3TrueFans View Post
    He jumped the gun by about a half a second, not much, but that was the difference between 5-seconds and a timeout.
    I thought I've heard that a timeout cannot be called after four seconds.



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    Re: Texas - Arizona 5 second violation

    Quote Originally Posted by Ms3r4ISU View Post
    I thought I've heard that a timeout cannot be called after four seconds.
    that was the explanation floating around initially, but it's been since debunked. The rulebook says no such thing.


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    Re: Texas - Arizona 5 second violation

    It was close enough. Texas just played dumb and this goes to show once again that Rick Barnes cannot coach with the big boys. He can recruit with them but when he goes up against them in meaningful games, he loses over and over again.

    Why call a timeout when you get the rebound?



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    Re: Texas - Arizona 5 second violation

    Quote Originally Posted by Ms3r4ISU View Post
    I thought I've heard that a timeout cannot be called after four seconds.
    I don't know about that, but it would seem like a stupid rule if true, which means it's entirely possible.



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    Re: Texas - Arizona 5 second violation

    Poor little Texas can just never catch a break. Everything is stacked against poor little Texas. Everyone is always trying to keep poor little Texas down. I feel so sorry for them.



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    Re: Texas - Arizona 5 second violation

    Quote Originally Posted by Clones85' View Post
    It was close enough. Texas just played dumb and this goes to show once again that Rick Barnes cannot coach with the big boys. He can recruit with them but when he goes up against them in meaningful games, he loses over and over again.

    Why call a timeout when you get the rebound?
    i couldn't believe he called that TO. he could have ran another few seconds off the clock before he got fouled.



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    Re: Texas - Arizona 5 second violation

    The Arizona coach may want to have that cough checked out too.



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    Re: Texas - Arizona 5 second violation

    Quote Originally Posted by Clones85' View Post
    It was close enough. Texas just played dumb and this goes to show once again that Rick Barnes cannot coach with the big boys. He can recruit with them but when he goes up against them in meaningful games, he loses over and over again.

    Why call a timeout when you get the rebound?
    Exactly, one of two reasons- either Barnes wants to get his mug on TV again and/or his players are dumb enough to not pass the ball and run out the clock.(like they did not do with 25 seconds left)



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    Re: Texas - Arizona 5 second violation

    Quote Originally Posted by 3TrueFans View Post
    I don't know about that, but it would seem like a stupid rule if true, which means it's entirely possible.
    There is no such rule. there used to be but they changed it several years ago. it was a blotched call.



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    Re: Texas - Arizona 5 second violation

    Bad call. This is the kind of thing an official needs to be extremely patient on. You want to be sure to reward the defense if they earn it, but you also need to be sure you give the inbounding team their full 5 seconds. And if they request a T.O. and it is close, you give them the benefit of the doubt.

    As far as the one video where in the title it says the ref only counted to four, that is actually the proper mechanic, at least from the way I was taught. You do four visible counts and the fifth is the hand in the air killing it for the violation. That ref's hand was already up because the clock wasn't rolling, but just because the counting hand didn't get to five does not mean anything.

    I personally don't like to do it that way, however, for that very reason of perception. I'd rather count all the way to five and kill it a second late so I can say to a coach,"Watch the tape," than to have him watch it and think I only counted to four.


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    Re: Texas - Arizona 5 second violation

    I hate the refs that make the emphatic calls. You can tell they want to be part of the game. This was one of those times. He wanted to make a show. It's almost like the refs like to get booed. Terrible call. Worse than the Rutgers game.



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