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    Best guess at Defensive two-deeps.

    Depth much improved over last year, but still thin at a few spots. Really need Pompey to show up ready to play, and it would be helpful if Jevohn Miller was ready. Neither need to start, but solid backup play is a reasonable expectation. Still need a little extra beef at DE...though Laing is listed as a DE and can slide out if needed.

    DT Ruempelhoemer 288
    DT Mcdonough 289 (295)
    DE Nelson 235 (240)
    DE Lattimer 245 (250)
    LB Knott 243
    LB Klein 244
    LB George 222 (227)
    CB Reeves 165 (170)
    CB LJ 196
    S Benton 207
    S Broomfield 192 (195)

    DT Laing 282
    DT Pompey 285
    DE Neal 247 (250)
    DE Maggitt 243 (247)
    LB Taufooa 243
    LB Miller 236
    LB Morgan 201 (210)
    CB Young 169 (173)
    CB Thomas 164 (170)
    S Givens 204
    S Washington 209


    I've used all the weights from the updated roster, but my guess would be that a number of these players will pack on some pounds through the summer workout programs...so I've put some projected fall weights in parenthesis.


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    Re: Best guess at Defensive two-deeps.

    Bennett's move seems a little strange.
    He's leaving a wide open position to back up a possible all Big XII LB.
    Yet thought highly enough of to be pre-spring ahead of Morton, who
    started some late last year.

    Size seems right, does he lack speed to play safety?
    OLB barring injury is a 2 year wait, you'd think we'd want
    to look at every option at Safety before we look for a new #2 Sam.


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    Re: Best guess at Defensive two-deeps.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyforce View Post
    Bennett's move seems a little strange.
    He's leaving a wide open position to back up a possible all Big XII LB.
    Yet thought highly enough of to be pre-spring ahead of Morton, who
    started some late last year.

    Size seems right, does he lack speed to play safety?
    OLB barring injury is a 2 year wait, you'd think we'd want
    to look at every option at Safety before we look for a new #2 Sam.
    I like Bennett at LB. He has the height and deffinitely the speed to do really good things there. If he can put on a little more weight and keep that speed he would be very disruptive.

    It seems like the staff isn't looking for big 6'2 safeties but more coverage oriented 5'10-6' safeties.

    I think Bennett should get a pretty decent amount of reps over the next two years even with the twins at LB. If he's good enough it also opens up the possibility of sliding AK47 inside to MLB next year.



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    Re: Best guess at Defensive two-deeps.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mesaclone1 View Post
    Depth much improved over last year, but still thin at a few spots.

    ...so I've put some projected fall weights in parenthesis.
    Seems like, rather than guesswork, much of your lineups were wishful thinking. Some of them directly contradict what has already been posted in the series on cyclones.com.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyforce View Post
    Bennett's move seems a little strange.
    He's leaving a wide open position to back up a possible all Big XII LB.
    Why do you think that? Counting incoming Jared Brackens, there are probably four guys (Washington, Brooks and Morgan) in the mix for SS. Why in the world wouldn't you think that A.J. Klein needs a decent backup, a breather once in a while--not to mention an eventual successor down the road?




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    Re: Best guess at Defensive two-deeps.

    Quote Originally Posted by cyhiphopp View Post
    I like Bennett at LB. He has the height and deffinitely the speed to do really good things there. If he can put on a little more weight and keep that speed he would be very disruptive.

    It seems like the staff isn't looking for big 6'2 safeties but more coverage oriented 5'10-6' safeties.

    I think Bennett should get a pretty decent amount of reps over the next two years even with the twins at LB. If he's good enough it also opens up the possibility of sliding AK47 inside to MLB next year.
    I think positions are pretty fluid for some guys. For some reason I have always thought of Bennett as a LB. Arnaud thinks so too, he has commented that Bennett is going to be at LB because he has a big frame. Given this he'll probably gain some more lbs and hopefully retain that safety speed.

    What's pretty exciting is looking down the road after Knott and Klein leave we'll have Bennett, George, Mattison, and possibly Miller at the LB spot. Don't know how they'll pan out yet but there's a lot of speed there.



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    Re: Best guess at Defensive two-deeps.

    Actually, my predictions of the two deep are looking ahead to September. As for the pre-spring, what was posted at cyclones.com is pretty much what was expected. The issue at LB will be whether or not Taufooa or George turn out to be the best 3rd option...it could go either way in my view. Certainly, Taufooa starts out as the 3rd guy...I just think George may prove to good to keep out of the lineup.



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    Re: Best guess at Defensive two-deeps.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aclone View Post


    Why do you think that? Counting incoming Jared Brackens, there are probably four guys (Washington, Brooks and Morgan) in the mix for SS. Why in the world wouldn't you think that A.J. Klein needs a decent backup, a breather once in a while--not to mention an eventual successor down the road?
    I think we already had a decent back up. Are you saying Morton isn't? I simply think you look to fill the first 11 before the second. I think you'd want to give him a shot at competing for a starting job in a wide open position before you move him. If he's not the answer there's plenty of time in the fall to work out your 2s. Obviously the staff felt his future was at OLB.


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    Re: Best guess at Defensive two-deeps.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyforce View Post
    I think we already had a decent back up. Are you saying Morton isn't? I simply think you look to fill the first 11 before the second. I think you'd want to give him a shot at competing for a starting job in a wide open position before you move him. If he's not the answer there's plenty of time in the fall to work out your 2s. Obviously the staff felt his future was at OLB.
    I don't think he is a decent Big 12 LB. Good for a walkon, but not a solid Big 12 LB.



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    Re: Best guess at Defensive two-deeps.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyforce View Post
    I think we already had a decent back up. Are you saying Morton isn't?
    Yes. Perhaps you simply have a different standard for "decent backup" than I or some others do.


    I simply think you look to fill the first 11 before the second. I think you'd want to give him a shot at competing for a starting job in a wide open position before you move him.
    A "wide open" position--with four other players already competing for one spot?

    At the very least, with C.J. Morgan in the same class, it seems to me that it makes little sense for both of them to be working at SS.
    If he's not the answer there's plenty of time in the fall to work out your 2s.
    Not exactly, since I am fairly sure the S&C workout for being a safety and being a linebacker are substantially different--especially if he wants to put on 10-20 more pounds.

    Besides, I suspect they had their answer, after all Summer and Fall to work with him. Matter of fact, traditionally it is the workups to a Bowl game when players are usually switched--so that they have even more opportunity to learn their new positions. Without that luxury, I doubt that Wally and Bobby wanted to fiddle around with it over a mere few more weeks.

    Obviously the staff felt his future was at OLB.
    There is another factor that you are forgetting. A.J. Klein is a good linebacker, but he certainly doesn't have Knott's speed. On passing downs, or various other situations, they'll be able to slip Bennett in there, for a big infusion of speed. Do you really think that it's not worth giving Wally another weapon to work with?




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    Re: Best guess at Defensive two-deeps.

    I don't like projecting true freshman into the two-deep. We are not exactly bringing in a bunch of 5 star kids. I think Woods is ahead of Pompey. He has a weight advantage and has been doing this for two years. I would also expect to see Aaron Moore. He is a little light, but is a good athlete and is very strong. I can deal with an undersized Dlineman if he is disruptive. Also Brandon Jensen is sporting a good weight at 284 to make a push against these guys. I am just hoping the competition is heated. If we could play 4-5 DTs this year, it would be tremendous late in games.



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